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    Default Just when I thought I had turned the corner...

    I regress.

    Sitting pretty last night with 60k in the Dise 50k guaranteed. About 20th out of 90. Blinds are now 1.5/3k. Folded around to me on the button with 7Ts. I raise 2.5 x and medium stack with 30k pushes. I fold.

    Couple hands later I am in early to mid position and open raise 2.5x with A9s. BB with just a little under my stack (which is now down to less than 50k after my failed steal and the blinds) calls.

    Flop comes :Ac: :Kc:

    BB checks, I bet either 8 or 9k. BB reraises to over 25k.

    I regress to my old ways and think for only 5 seconds, decide he probably has something like :Qc: and a T,J or K kicker and is willing to gamble. I push, he insta-calls with :Tc: :Jc:

    I've busted myself on my last two tourneys with horrible plays like this - pushing after a check-raise. So this post is more of a let's try to get it stuck back in my head not to lose focus. Live and learn - unfortunately the learning curve is curving back for me right now.
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    HEY MAN STOP DOING THAT


    i hope that helps
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    Ok - no more playing.

    I hate being retarded.
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    To me, your stong bet might read that you want to take the pot right there. A ballsy player MIGHT go AI on a semi-bluff in similar situations, but he probably wouldn't here b/c you would have pot odds to call. If he was drawing, he would probably just call himself and see the turn.

    If he had an A, he probably had you out kicked, since he called your raise. So the likely situations are that you are dominated, drawing dead, or he's on a big draw. So, why race (or worse) for your life, when you don't have to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
    If he had an A, he probably had you out kicked, since he called your raise. So the likely situations are that you are dominated, drawing dead, or he's on a big draw. So, why race (or worse) for your life, when you don't have to?
    Ummm... exactly. Hence the title of the post, the comments about how retarded and horrible I am, etc. This was something I was doing months ago, when I thought you had to win a whole bunch of cointosses to win a tourney. I know better now.
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    Don't feel bad. I just called an all-in on the 3rd hand with AKclubs. I had pf raised to 60, call by SB. He pushes on the flop, board of 4s 4c 7c and I think for a sec... and call. (And I KNEW he had a 4 - terrible call...)

    So he shows me his 4 (and a 9!) as he pulls in the chips - lol (Blinds were only 10/15 so not sure why he called 60 w 49o but I guess he felt like gamboolin too!)

    Happens to all of us - it's just those that make a lot of final tables do it a lot less often... And it's a lot easier in a $11 than in a $215 (or at least less painful...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
    If he had an A, he probably had you out kicked, since he called your raise. So the likely situations are that you are dominated, drawing dead, or he's on a big draw. So, why race (or worse) for your life, when you don't have to?
    Ummm... exactly. Hence the title of the post, the comments about how retarded and horrible I am, etc. This was something I was doing months ago, when I thought you had to win a whole bunch of cointosses to win a tourney. I know better now.
    Don't sweat it. It's a long-term game...it's just one hand, man. We all make mistakes that are unbecoming of our skill levels. Just learn from it and move onto the next tournament, I'm sure you'll be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
    If he had an A, he probably had you out kicked, since he called your raise. So the likely situations are that you are dominated, drawing dead, or he's on a big draw. So, why race (or worse) for your life, when you don't have to?
    Ummm... exactly. Hence the title of the post, the comments about how retarded and horrible I am, etc. This was something I was doing months ago, when I thought you had to win a whole bunch of cointosses to win a tourney. I know better now.
    Sorry, didn't mean to pile on...hang in there, Chard!
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    No sweat. I continued my donkafying ways last night tho -

    Ponied up somewhere between 7-10 rebuys and the add-on but was a huge stack by the end of the re-buy hour. Ran card dead and barely made any gain for a couple hours. Finally hit a monster and move back up to top 30 out of like 180 left. Get dealt 99 call an overbet by a loose guy with basically the same chip stack as me. Flop comes something like 26T and he pushes, and even after writing this post yesterday, I fail to think it through and call. I CALLED!!! man I'm a donk.

    I then capped it off by playing fine by semi-tilting at my bread and butter 5/10 limit game; faced two horrendous beats (4 outers on capped turns hitting the river to make boats) and ended up down over $1k for the night.

    Good thing I'm not depending on this money.

    Haven't decided if I'm gonna give it a break or not - except for my 99 play in the tourney I played fine, just a bad run.

    We'll see tonight where my mind is at.
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    At the moment I seem incapable of playing a flawless session. In fact, I'm like an opening batsman (apologies for non-US-friendly sporting analogy) - I just don't play my A-game until I've warmed up with at least a few dozen hands (the problem with my analogy is that I always start too loose rather than too tight).

    In ring, this isn't a disaster - almost every session has the pattern of "lose 1-2 buyins, recover, make 2-3 buyins, quit exhausted". Unfortunately, that tends to be how it goes with tourneys too, especially MTTs - I excuse this to myself (while being aware of the ugly truth deep in my subconscious) by saying "well I want a big stack early on so I need to gamble". Of course, you CAN'T lose a buyin and then recover - that's it, finito.

    I am really fuxing awful at MTTs.

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