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  1. #1

    Default Results surprised me. Did i make a good move or bad read?

    Hand Number: 229,012,170
    Table Number: 2,944,550
    Event Name: Sit & Go Table Korshak (#2074209)SNHB
    Game: No Limit Hold 'em
    Level IV: 75/150 Blinds (25 Minimum Chip)
    Average Stack: 2,000 (1,000 starting chips)
    Remaining Players: 5 (10 started)
    Seat 2 : queso222 starts with 325
    Seat 4 : river_ace_ starts with 3,475
    Seat 5 : kcknockuout starts with 1,625
    Seat 6 : thirteen starts with 1,475
    Seat 10 : blewmystack starts with 3,100
    Seat 6 : thirteen has the dealer button
    >>>DEALING HOLE CARDS<<<
    thirteen dealt down Jc Kc
    blewmystack posts the small blind 75
    queso222 posts the big blind 150
    river_ace_ folds
    kcknockuout calls 150
    thirteen calls 150
    blewmystack calls 75
    queso222 raises 175 to 325 and is all-in
    kcknockuout calls 175
    thirteen calls 175
    blewmystack calls 175
    >>>DEALING FLOP<<< [ Js 2s 8d ]
    blewmystack checks
    kcknockuout bets 1,300 and is all-in
    thirteen ???

    Results below in white.


    thirteen folds
    blewmystack folds
    kcknockuout takes back 1,300
    kcknockuout cards were As 5s
    queso222 cards were Ah 7s
    >>>DEALING TURN<<< [ 2c ]
    >>>DEALING RIVER<<< [ 7d ]
    queso222 wins 1,300 with two pair, sevens and deuces
    >>>SUMMARY<<<
    Hand Ended: Thursday September 29th 7:54:35 PM CDT 2005
    Total Pot: 1,300
    Board: [ Js 2s 8d 2c 7d ]
    Seat 2 : queso222 (big blind) bet 325, won 1,300, net +975, showed hand [ Ah 7s
    ]
    Seat 4 : river_ace_ did not bet, folded pre-flop
    Seat 5 : kcknockuout lost 325, showed hand [ As 5s ]
    Seat 6 : thirteen (button) lost 325, folded on the flop
    Seat 10 : blewmystack (small blind) lost 325, folded on the flop
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    what a fucking prick (him, not you!). General etiquette is to check that down unless you have a big hand that will knock the other player out.
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    These are the only types of players that I almost always bitch at! That is just so stupid..

    As a sidenote, did you consider AI after that one call PF. IMO JK is good enough hand to do that, unless you think he might be slowplaying.. You would have increased your stack by 25% if everybody folded. Without a showdown. Calling wasnt horrible either.
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  4. #4
    I'm folding in that situation, only because unless he has a hand there is o reason to bet into an empty side pot. You have a nice hand, but if he doesn't have top pair beat he shouldn't be betting.

    Now, I caught a glance at some of the other replies by accident but didn't check the results. I guess he was a dick, but you have to let that go. There is no reason to call that insane bet with one guy all in already.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Pingviini
    These are the only types of players that I almost always bitch at! That is just so stupid..

    As a sidenote, did you consider AI after that one call PF. IMO JK is good enough hand to do that, unless you think he might be slowplaying.. You would have increased your stack by 25% if everybody folded. Without a showdown. Calling wasnt horrible either.
    Preflop i did not consider pushing with KJ.

    I'm AI on the flop if kcknockuout checks to me. I felt I had a better hand than queso222 and a check by kcknockuout would make me think he was on a draw..
  6. #6
    I fold PF. The BB is very likely going AI with his stack, so you're probably committing 2.5 BB w/KJs and already one caller, making it 3-way at least. No need to get involved. I think rasing big is probably better then just calling if you have to play this hand.

    As to the flop I could probably only call if I thought the guy was a donk, which he may have already proven earlier in the game based on this move. That was pretty dickish/stupid. Guess he thought his flush draw was good
  7. #7
    Bet or fold preflop. The call was a bad play. I'm actually not sure I like the flop fold. The only reasonable hands that you're not beating are a set, and there's no way he's betting like that with a set (as he'd want to get some value from it). I might call based on that, and certainly would after seeing him play like this.
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  8. #8
    Raise preflop....don't call w/ this hand. If this guy has played like a tool previously, I call this all-in. Thinking he hit 2nd pair w/ an Ace or King kicker...
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  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
    Bet or fold preflop. The call was a bad play. I'm actually not sure I like the flop fold. The only reasonable hands that you're not beating are a set, and there's no way he's betting like that with a set (as he'd want to get some value from it). I might call based on that, and certainly would after seeing him play like this.
    That's right, because betting with a guy all-in signifies strength. Going all-in at the same time signifies more strength. I didn't see the all-in PF and I instantly thought "flush draw" when I saw the guy go all-in though.
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by ZenOffsuit
    Raise preflop....don't call w/ this hand. If this guy has played like a tool previously, I call this all-in. Thinking he hit 2nd pair w/ an Ace or King kicker...
    Given the other hand posted about this guy, I think this push was a call.
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
    Quote Originally Posted by ZenOffsuit
    Raise preflop....don't call w/ this hand. If this guy has played like a tool previously, I call this all-in. Thinking he hit 2nd pair w/ an Ace or King kicker...
    Given the other hand posted about this guy, I think this push was a call.
    Even though this guy made some wild plays, the only times prior to this where he pushed all his chips in was with a made hand. Even in the other post, he did not commit all his chips until he had made his flush. When he pushed, I assumed a made hand and folded my hand. He had shown down some hands with Jx, so I put him on two pair when he pushed.
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by thirteen
    Though this guy made some wild plays. They only times prior to this where he pushed all his chips in was with a made hand. Even in the other post, he did not commit all his chips until he had made his flush. When he pushed, I assumed a made hand and folded my hand. He was limping in with Jx a lot, I put him on two pair when he pushed.
    It's not just that he made wild plays though. It's that he demonstrated he's a complete idiot. There may have been hands that redeemed his image, but with what I know about him from what I've seen (excluding this hand) I call. Including this hand, I insta-call.
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