Couple Hands from $5 R&A yesterday

[Toadstool]

Just wondering what you think he had and what you think I should have done?

first one:
#Game No : 2791312560
***** Hand History for Game 2791312560 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:16149525 Level:8 Blinds (150/300) - Wednesday, September 28, 18:33:16 EDT 2005
Table Multi-Table R+A(472310) Table #33 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: Cubanoid ( $9400 )
Seat 3: seasthedream ( $9650 )
Seat 4: johnnyhenry ( $6620 )
Seat 5: lloyd1943 ( $3400 )
Seat 6: Gordon68111 ( $4760 )
Seat 7: mimmo58 ( $12424 )
Seat 8: Shtstpkcfire ( $1465 )
Seat 9: tonyc233 ( $8645 )
Seat 10: GREAT1WHITE ( $66 )
Trny:16149525 Level:8
Blinds (150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Gordon68111 [ Qd Jd ]
GREAT1WHITE folds.
Cubanoid folds.
seasthedream folds.
johnnyhenry calls [300].
lloyd1943 folds.
Gordon68111 calls [300].
mimmo58 folds.
Shtstpkcfire folds.
tonyc233 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 6c, 4h ]
tonyc233 checks.
johnnyhenry checks.
Gordon68111 bets [800].
tonyc233 folds.
johnnyhenry is all-In [6320]

My read on johhny is that he limps in with a LOT and ace any two suited/connected, my table image is fairly tight, only been at the table for around 25 hands, won 3-4 pots without showdown so far.

couple of hands later:

#Game No : 2791335707
***** Hand History for Game 2791335707 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:16149525 Level:8 Blinds (150/300) - Wednesday, September 28, 18:37:36 EDT 2005
Table Multi-Table R+A(472310) Table #33 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Cubanoid ( $9100 )
Seat 3: seasthedream ( $9650 )
Seat 5: lloyd1943 ( $3100 )
Seat 6: Gordon68111 ( $12280 )
Seat 7: mimmo58 ( $15340 )
Seat 8: Shtstpkcfire ( $115 )
Seat 9: tonyc233 ( $7895 )
Seat 1: elwaydrive2 ( $10123 )
Trny:16149525 Level:8
Blinds (150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Gordon68111 [ Ks Ac ]
lloyd1943 folds.
Gordon68111 calls [300].
mimmo58 folds.
Shtstpkcfire folds.
tonyc233 calls [300].
alcher74 has joined the table.
Player alcher74 has been moved from table 39 to this table
Shades_10 has joined the table.
Player Shades_10 has been moved from table 39 to this table
elwaydrive2 calls [300].
Cubanoid calls [150].
seasthedream checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, Ad, 4h ]
Cubanoid checks.
seasthedream checks.
Gordon68111 bets [1000].
tonyc233 folds.
elwaydrive2 folds.
Cubanoid folds.
seasthedream raises [3000].
Gordon68111

havent seen much of seas the dream, he got moved about 7 hands ago, so he hasnt seen much of me either, apart from the hand above.

[chardrian]

Hand 1 - probably fold. You say he limps a lot but what does he go all-in with after a flop? Does he ever raise preflop - if so with what? You are only beating 9J, TJ or a bluff here - lots of hands beat you.

Hand 2 - raise preflop.

[Toadstool]

for hand #1, Firstly what would he play like that? set on a board like that? call or small raise. 2 pair? he wouldnt limp with J6, TPTK? from what iv'e seen he would have bet out. From his point of view havent shown strength preflop, also he has seen 3 checks and then a bet from the last player to act which may look to him like a blatent steal.

Hand #2 - generally in the earlier stages (first two hours) i play very passively preflop with two unpaired high cards, i like to invest as little as possible unless I can make a hand, and if i do make a hand, i can generally get paid off or release it if i think its second best, I think i play passively preflop based on when i first started playing i played almost exclusively at $25NL, and soon learned that there was no value in raising preflop with 2 high cards - you miss the flop they are extremely hard to bluff so i like to make a hand before commiting more chips than i have to.

From his point of view - EP limper he probably thinks PP or an ace, he sees me bet into a lot of players and so probably puts me on TPGK. He then raises me a callable amount.

[stranglin]

Hand #1 - I would fold. Your hand may be good, but at this point, I don't think it's worth finding out.

Hand #2 - I would go all in. Raising preflop would have made your desicion easier because you would have reduced the number of hands your opponent could have. However, TPTK is pretty good. I think you're good here, and I'd push.

[chardrian]

for hand #1, Firstly what would he play like that? set on a board like that? call or small raise. 2 pair? he wouldnt limp with J6, TPTK? from what iv'e seen he would have bet out. From his point of view havent shown strength preflop, also he has seen 3 checks and then a bet from the last player to act which may look to him like a blatent steal.

Hand #2 - generally in the earlier stages (first two hours) i play very passively preflop with two unpaired high cards, i like to invest as little as possible unless I can make a hand, and if i do make a hand, i can generally get paid off or release it if i think its second best, I think i play passively preflop based on when i first started playing i played almost exclusively at $25NL, and soon learned that there was no value in raising preflop with 2 high cards - you miss the flop they are extremely hard to bluff so i like to make a hand before commiting more chips than i have to.

From his point of view - EP limper he probably thinks PP or an ace, he sees me bet into a lot of players and so probably puts me on TPGK. He then raises me a callable amount.

Hand 1 - I don't know, you tell me. From the info you gave he could have been playing JQ, JK, JA, QQ, KK, AA, 44, 66, and even 46s that way. The fact that someone limps a lot - doesn't mean that they go all-in a lot. Clearly you caleld, since you had more than double your chips a couple hands later. But, if you are looking for a pat on the back, you got to give us more info so that we can then say - yeah, what a great read.

Hand 2 - if you really are playing this way - then I want to be at your table. Limping AK is basically asking to be beat by hands like A2, A3, A4, etc. I'm not saying you should overvalue AK (it is vulnerable) but don't undervalue it either. I try to make consistent raises preflop with any hand I play. I will occassionally get into a limpfest, but I try not to be the one starting it off, unless I'm in really early position, have a great drawing hand, and know that my table is passive enough that a limp will make it through.

[gabe]

Hand #1 - I would fold. Your hand may be good, but at this point, I don't think it's worth finding out.

Hand #2 - I would go all in. Raising preflop would have made your desicion easier because you would have reduced the number of hands your opponent could have. However, TPTK is pretty good. I think you're good here, and I'd push.

i agree with this

[Toadstool]

ok, thanks for the replies, ive got one more hand from justnow, this is also a $5 R&A

***** Hand History for Game 2802757363 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:16207653 Level:11 Blinds (400/800) - Friday, September 30, 19:22:04 EDT 2005
Table Multi-Table R+A(473249) Table #7 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: rainman944 ( $11834 )
Seat 2: Gordon68111 ( $13876 )
Seat 7: snakeman ( $20840 )
Seat 8: bee29 ( $17817 )
Seat 10: CmftrblyNumb ( $44365 )
Seat 6: table_tities ( $9770 )
Seat 9: WoodMann ( $4005 )
Seat 5: killerking1 ( $14458 )
Seat 4: REHtheman ( $21977 )
Seat 3: vptalio ( $11803 )
Trny:16207653 Level:11
Blinds (400/800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Gordon68111 [ Qd Qs ]
bee29 calls [800].
WoodMann folds.
CmftrblyNumb folds.
rainman944 raises [2000].
Gordon68111 calls [2000].
vptalio folds.
REHtheman folds.
killerking1 folds.
table_tities folds.
snakeman folds.
bee29 calls [1200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, Td, 4d ]
bee29 checks.
rainman944 is all-In [9834]
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
tough decision

Been playing at this table for at least 4 orbits and this is the first time I had seen rainman raise preflop, he was also generally passive postflop.
any thoughts?

[drmcboy]

re raise pre flop, I'd call here.

[Toadstool]

preflop, given his small raise i was thinking AA/KK/JJ/AK, and when the flop came down i was beating only AK, however i was getting the odds to call based on the flush draw, what i neglected to take into account however was that he might have a high diamond - which he did. KK.
Anyway i am just playing now and have just had 2 difficult hands, i was wondering how best to play these 2 hands. Only just been moved to the table so no reads.

#Game No : 2819491062
***** Hand History for Game 2819491062 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:16296590 Level:7 Blinds (100/200) - Monday, October 03, 18:18:54 EDT 2005
Table Multi-Table R+A(477253) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: MissyJo69 ( $3470 )
Seat 2: Gordon68111 ( $9555 )
Seat 3: AngusMcSpuds ( $3660 )
Seat 4: STR84ME ( $13139 )
Seat 5: mersenne ( $6037 )
Seat 6: Misfit969 ( $3265 )
Seat 7: realdeal824 ( $4472 )
Seat 8: BingBamBoom1 ( $6285 )
Seat 9: dweezy24 ( $4127 )
Seat 10: GETTINEVEN1 ( $7885 )
Trny:16296590 Level:7
Blinds (100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Gordon68111 [ Jc Jh ]
BingBamBoom1 folds.
dweezy24 folds.
GETTINEVEN1 folds.
MissyJo69 is all-In [3470]
Gordon68111



#Game No : 2819540892
***** Hand History for Game 2819540892 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:16296590 Level:7 Blinds (100/200) - Monday, October 03, 18:28:27 EDT 2005
Table Multi-Table R+A(477253) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: MissyJo69 ( $3770 )
Seat 2: Gordon68111 ( $9255 )
Seat 3: AngusMcSpuds ( $7420 )
Seat 4: STR84ME ( $13239 )
Seat 5: mersenne ( $6037 )
Seat 6: Misfit969 ( $3165 )
Seat 7: realdeal824 ( $1212 )
Seat 8: BingBamBoom1 ( $11212 )
Seat 10: GETTINEVEN1 ( $6785 )
Seat 9: LannyDeLoss ( $1245 )
Trny:16296590 Level:7
Blinds (100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Gordon68111 [ Qh Qd ]
Misfit969 folds.
realdeal824 is all-In [1212]
BingBamBoom1 folds.
LannyDeLoss folds.
GETTINEVEN1 folds.
MissyJo69 folds.
Gordon68111 raises [3100].
AngusMcSpuds folds.
STR84ME is all-In [13139]
mersenne folds.
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
Gordon68111

what to do??