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  1. #1

    Default Raise the turn again?

    Final table of a $20 Freeze on Stars.

    PokerStars Game #2784761089: Tournament #13543438, Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (4000/8000) - 2005/10/12 - 04:06:35 (ET)
    Table '13543438 91' Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: AvatarKava (154448 in chips)
    Seat 2: JDNA1 (169446 in chips)
    Seat 3: scorpio70 (97536 in chips)
    Seat 4: treyes419 (60603 in chips)
    Seat 5: Papa Chippi (217383 in chips)
    Seat 6: riverman855 (69820 in chips)
    Seat 7: lockb/win (79855 in chips)
    Seat 8: cabowaborat (312850 in chips)
    Seat 9: melinda21 (215059 in chips)
    AvatarKava: posts the ante 400
    JDNA1: posts the ante 400
    scorpio70: posts the ante 400
    treyes419: posts the ante 400
    Papa Chippi: posts the ante 400
    riverman855: posts the ante 400
    lockb/win: posts the ante 400
    cabowaborat: posts the ante 400
    melinda21: posts the ante 400
    JDNA1: posts small blind 4000
    scorpio70: posts big blind 8000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to AvatarKava [Ac Ts]
    treyes419: folds
    Papa Chippi: folds
    riverman855: folds
    lockb/win: folds
    cabowaborat: calls 8000
    melinda21: folds
    AvatarKava: raises 24000 to 32000
    JDNA1: folds
    scorpio70: folds
    cabowaborat: calls 24000
    *** FLOP *** [5h 6c Td]
    cabowaborat: bets 8000
    AvatarKava: raises 24000 to 32000
    cabowaborat: calls 24000
    *** TURN *** [5h 6c Td] [Kh]
    cabowaborat: bets 8000
    AvatarKava: calls 8000
    *** RIVER *** [5h 6c Td Kh] [Qh]
    cabowaborat: bets 16000
    AvatarKava: calls 16000
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    cabowaborat: shows [Th Jh] (a flush, King high)
    AvatarKava: mucks hand
    cabowaborat collected 191600 from pot
    riverman855 said, "nh"
    AvatarKava said, "nh"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 191600 | Rake 0
    Board [5h 6c Td Kh Qh]
    Seat 1: AvatarKava (button) mucked [Ac Ts]
    Seat 2: JDNA1 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: scorpio70 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: treyes419 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Papa Chippi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: riverman855 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: lockb/win folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: cabowaborat showed [Th Jh] and won (191600) with a flush, King high
    Seat 9: melinda21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. #2
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    i would push the turn.
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  5. #5
    honestly i would probably play it the same way you did.

    however now that you know he min-bets his flush draws you can raise him off them every single time, whether you have the hand or not

    congrats on final tabling
  6. #6
    that's tough. i think i would play it the same. partly 'cause i suck and donkbets completely throw me off. I do like the 50K+ flop idea... if i got a donk after that i could hopefull fold, since opp would know he was actually betting the rest of my stack.

    btw is that OUR melinda?
  7. #7
    If it is, props. She's a very good player.

    My thinking after the feedback is that 50k would have been a much better flop raise.
  8. #8
    I think that I would have pushed the turn and made them decide if its worth the chance on the river.
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