How much to bet?

[PokerPatNEU]

How much do you bet here? Pretty sure villain was on the bigger flush draw, probably the Ad and some other unpaired broadway. 3$ R+A tonite...in progress.


PokerStars Game #2789749515: Tournament #13534565, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2005/10/12 - 21:28:35 (ET)
Table '13534565 37' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: crusher333 (5670 in chips)
Seat 2: JanVanOranje (3440 in chips)
Seat 3: ICEPOKERNY1 (2890 in chips)
Seat 4: somers (1365 in chips)
Seat 5: i b da chef (1990 in chips)
Seat 6: HitMePat (4230 in chips)
Seat 7: Moosehead (2025 in chips)
Seat 8: sccs.1960 (8620 in chips)
Seat 9: Mr Quick (12660 in chips)
i b da chef: posts small blind 15
HitMePat: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HitMePat [6d 7d]
Moosehead: folds
sccs.1960: calls 30
Mr Quick: calls 30
crusher333: folds
JanVanOranje: folds
ICEPOKERNY1: raises 90 to 120
somers: folds
i b da chef: calls 105
HitMePat: calls 90
sccs.1960: calls 90
Mr Quick: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [9d Td 4d]
i b da chef: checks
HitMePat: bets 390
sccs.1960: folds
Mr Quick: folds
ICEPOKERNY1: calls 390
i b da chef: folds
*** TURN *** [9d Td 4d] [4c]
HitMePat: bets ???

[Brent-]

check fold

[gabe]

why not check raise the flop???


you have enough left to just bet the pot, but pushing is probably good too.

[PokerPatNEU]

check fold

You put him on 2 pair with a 4 or a bigger flush from this?

[PokerPatNEU]

why not check raise the flop???


you have enough left to just bet the pot, but pushing is probably good too.

Yeah probably better than just betting strait out. Guess i was afraid it would just check around and i might give a free diamond to a bigger flush draw. I was just hoping to get 1 caller out of the 4 with my almost pot sized bet who was on a draw. With the intention of taking it down on the turn if another non flush card came...I don't put him on a boat with the 2nd four so that doesn't bother me.


** TURN *** [9d Td 4d] [4c]
HitMePat: bets 3720 and is all-in
ICEPOKERNY1: folds
Mr Quick said, "BLUFF"
HitMePat collected 1380 from pot
HitMePat said, "ok"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1380 | Rake 0
Board [9d Td 4d 4c]
Seat 1: crusher333 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: JanVanOranje folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ICEPOKERNY1 folded on the Turn
Seat 4: somers (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: i b da chef (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: HitMePat (big blind) collected (1380)
Seat 7: Moosehead folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: sccs.1960 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Mr Quick folded on the Flop



I guess after this hand i just wished i had extracted more chips, since my read was right and it looked like he was on a draw. I always fear the suckout in the early stages of these things


Update: 50 / 261 at the break. This is the first break i've made in my career of MTT's (four) *cheers*.

[Brent-]

check fold

You put him on 2 pair with a 4 or a bigger flush from this?

Bigger flush. Thinking about it now, maybe check raise to see where you stand could be a good idea. I dont I could push in this situation though.

looks like I was wrong, nice move

[drmcboy]

PS is plenty on the turn, push should only get called if you're beat. I like leading out on the flop with this many in.

[chardrian]

I like the flop bet as well. You bet about 2/3 of the pot on the flop. I would bet about the same on the turn. He only has 7 outs for the flush and maybe 4 more outs for a boat. So at best he has a 1 in 4 shot to beat you here (based on your read). I'd bet between 1000-1500 on the turn.