Which tourny should I buy in for?

[shysti]

Today on Poker Stars they have a 3 +.30 unlimited rebuy tourny coming up, and they also have a 30 + 3 deep stack tournament going around the same time.

I don't want to play both because I like to devote myself completely to one tournament at a time. I think I can say I have finally developed my style for MTT's. The other day I played in one with 1060 people and I made it to the final table, then 2 days ago I played in one with 1024 and took 38th place which isn't bad. Neither of these did I catch a good run of cards, it was solid play from start to end.

I think I've developed my pace for these huge MTT's and know what to do at certain stages of the tournament.

Anyhow, I usually play freezeout tournaments, because I know people get crazy in the rebuy's but with this 3.30 one it's only for 3 bucks per rebuy and 1 add on cost only 3. So I was thinking I could go into this tournament with the fact that a lot of people are going to be looking to double up off the donkey's who go all in with marginal hands just to see if they can get lucky because they know others are doing the same.

And I figure I could captialize off these people to build my stack then cap it with the add on at the first break, and be in a solid position to go all the way. I also would allot myself a certain amount I plan on spending for the rebuy tournament , like only 24 bucks, 3 for the buy in roughly and about 6 rebuys or 7 depending if I need, or 5 rebuys and 1 add on.

So that's that, but then I got to thinking I love tournaments like the deep stack tournament where the blinds are 30 mins and you start with 5,000 in chips, it gives you time to make the right moves, you don't feel as pressured, and that kind of tournament requires people with skill vs luck factor found in other tournament structures.

The max entrants for that one is 1100 so the total prize pool there is 33k, however with the rebuy it's 10,000 guranteed plus whatever money comes from the rebuy time frame, it can add up to a lot of money in the prize pool.

Sorry to get so long winded, I just want opinions and feedback, maybe someone can bring to light something I haven't thought about.

Thanks,

shysti

[KoRnholio]

Deep stack tourny for sure. I've wanted to play one since I heard about them, but I haven't had a weekend with enough time to play one through if I actually made it deep. Like tonight I would play, but I'm already going to a $50 single table home game tournament with some friends a few hours after the deep stack tourny starts.

[shysti]

Yep that's the one I chose, wish me luck 1st place is 8250!

Im at tournament #13543649 on stars.

[allLiving]

Deep stack! That is the fucking best tournament ever. It closest resembles the WSOP style. Play it alot if you can!

[shysti]

We're at the first break, I am only up 255, I am playing kinda tight.
Played a few ok hands, hit a nice nut boat on the flop with queen 10, the guy kept betting into me, and i reraised him, he calls, but for some unknown God forsaken reason i checked on the river, there was a flush out there so I figured he was betting with that, I thought he would surely bet if I checked the river, but he just checked. Oh well.

I am not getting impatient but the stacks around me are growing and I am not, I dunno if I should loosen up, even though the table has been 50/50 kinda conservative and kinda loose. I am just getting a good feel for the players right now, and noting everything they do.

I'll update the next hour. We're on break. 855 people left. started with 1100

[shysti]

woot!

PokerStars Game #2812237484: Tournament #13543649, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/10/15 - 19:23:58 (ET)
Table '13543649 38' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: triweasel (9395 in chips)
Seat 2: Marton (5945 in chips)
Seat 3: Boat (5605 in chips)
Seat 4: Danimal7880 (10500 in chips)
Seat 5: Archangelele (11065 in chips)
Seat 6: haxthisn0b (3555 in chips)
Seat 7: shysti (5225 in chips)
Seat 8: mgrcc (8910 in chips)
Seat 9: holdemaces23 (12920 in chips)
haxthisn0b: posts small blind 25
shysti: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shysti [As Ac]
mgrcc: folds
holdemaces23: folds
triweasel: folds
Marton: raises 50 to 100
Boat: calls 100
Danimal7880: folds
Archangelele: calls 100
haxthisn0b: folds
shysti: raises 280 to 380
Marton: calls 280
Boat: calls 280
Archangelele: folds
*** FLOP *** [9d 5h 8d]
shysti: bets 2500
Marton: folds
Boat: raises 2500 to 5000
shysti: calls 2345 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9d 5h 8d] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [9d 5h 8d Ks] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shysti: shows [As Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
Boat: shows [Td Js] (high card Ace)
shysti collected 10955 from pot
shysti said, "whew"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10955 | Rake 0
Board [9d 5h 8d Ks Ad]
Seat 1: triweasel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Marton folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Boat showed [Td Js] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: Danimal7880 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Archangelele (button) folded before Flop
Seat 6: haxthisn0b (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: shysti (big blind) showed [As Ac] and won (10955) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 8: mgrcc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: holdemaces23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[shysti]

Ok what do you think my opponent has and what would you do?

PokerStars Game #2812275827: Tournament #13543649, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/10/15 - 19:29:35 (ET)
Table '13543649 38' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: triweasel (9470 in chips)
Seat 2: Marton (5490 in chips)
Seat 3: Boat (505 in chips)
Seat 4: Danimal7880 (10450 in chips)
Seat 5: Archangelele (10865 in chips)
Seat 6: haxthisn0b (3530 in chips)
Seat 7: shysti (11055 in chips)
Seat 8: mgrcc (8910 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: holdemaces23 (12845 in chips)
Danimal7880: posts small blind 25
Archangelele: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shysti [5c Ad]
haxthisn0b: folds
shysti: calls 50
mgrcc: folds
holdemaces23: calls 50
triweasel: folds
Marton: folds
Boat: calls 50
Danimal7880: folds
Archangelele: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac As 5s]
Archangelele: checks
shysti: checks
holdemaces23: bets 100
Boat: folds
Archangelele: folds
shysti: calls 100
*** TURN *** [Ac As 5s] [Js]
shysti: checks
holdemaces23: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ac As 5s Js] [Kh]
shysti: bets 200
holdemaces23: raises 500 to 700
shysti: raises 500 to 1200
holdemaces23: raises 11495 to 12695 and is all-in

What would you do? And what do you think he has?

Results below:

shysti: calls 9705 and is all-in
shysti said, "haha"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
holdemaces23: shows [5h Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Fives)
shysti: shows [5c Ad] (a full house, Aces full of Fives)
shysti collected 11118 from pot
holdemaces23 collected 11117 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 22235 | Rake 0
Board [Ac As 5s Js Kh]
Seat 1: triweasel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Marton folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Boat (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Danimal7880 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Archangelele (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: haxthisn0b folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: shysti showed [5c Ad] and won (11118) with a full house, Aces full of Fives
Seat 8: mgrcc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: holdemaces23 showed [5h Ah] and won (11117) with a full house, Aces full of Fives

[D3scride]

Tough decision

I would say nh and fold

In my opinion he's not pushing with anything less than a boat: 55 or AJ.

Either close your eyes and call or fold . I would do the latter.

[shysti]

What would you do here part 2!

PokerStars Game #2812426722: Tournament #13543649, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2005/10/15 - 19:52:03 (ET)
Table '13543649 38' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: triweasel (10670 in chips)
Seat 2: Marton (4540 in chips)
Seat 3: Boat (1105 in chips)
Seat 4: Danimal7880 (9545 in chips)
Seat 5: Archangelele (9128 in chips)
Seat 6: haxthisn0b (3305 in chips)
Seat 7: shysti (11948 in chips)
Seat 8: mgrcc (8672 in chips)
Seat 9: holdemaces23 (14207 in chips)
shysti: posts small blind 50
mgrcc: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shysti [6d Qd]
holdemaces23: folds
triweasel: calls 100
Marton: folds
Boat: folds
Danimal7880: calls 100
Archangelele: folds
Danimal7880 said, "sucks when you get good starters and no flops"
haxthisn0b: folds
shysti: calls 50
shysti said, "yeah"
mgrcc: raises 300 to 400
triweasel: calls 300
Danimal7880: calls 300
shysti: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [Qh 8h 7s]
shysti: bets 2500
mgrcc: calls 2500
triweasel: folds
Danimal7880: folds
*** TURN *** [Qh 8h 7s] [5h]
shysti: bets 2000
mgrcc: raises 3772 to 5772 and is all-in

What would you do? And what do you think he has?

Results below:
shysti: calls 3772
*** RIVER *** [Qh 8h 7s 5h] [8c]
shysti said, "YES"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shysti: shows [6d Qd] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
mgrcc: shows [Ts Tc] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
shysti collected 18144 from pot
triweasel said, "vn call"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18144 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 8h 7s 5h 8c]
Seat 1: triweasel folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Marton folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Boat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Danimal7880 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Archangelele folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: haxthisn0b (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: shysti (small blind) showed [6d Qd] and won (18144) with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 8: mgrcc (big blind) showed [Ts Tc] and lost with two pair, Tens and Eights
Seat 9: holdemaces23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[allLiving]

Tough decision

I would say nh and fold

In my opinion he's not pushing with anything less than a boat: 55 or AJ.

Either close your eyes and call or fold . I would do the latter.

What a girly way to play poker. call this instantly.

[allLiving]

2nd hand you have to call. And I think he has KK.

[shysti]

We're at the second break, only 598 players left out of 1100, Last break I had 5225, this break Im sitting on 22,348 and currently 18th place out of 598 people .

stay tuned till next break. Hopefully I have something good to report.

My goal between now and the next break is about 12,000 in chips so I'll be at 34, 348

[shysti]

Tough decision

I would say nh and fold

In my opinion he's not pushing with anything less than a boat: 55 or AJ.

Either close your eyes and call or fold . I would do the latter.

What a girly way to play poker. call this instantly.

I agree haha! I asked people at the table what they would of done, and they said fold. i was like but that would of left me with only 7k, and this guy was like 7k is the ave chip stack.

I replied I don't want avg, I am trying to WIN this thing, you can't win with avg.

[shysti]

Wow! I am almost at my goal and we still have an half an hour to go till next break, look what got me there! I had an excellent read on this guy, and he had raised my blind the hand prior and I reraised he went all in so I folded, this time he raised my blind again and i just called and well here it is:

PokerStars Game #2812793673: Tournament #13543649, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2005/10/15 - 20:43:46 (ET)
Table '13543649 38' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: triweasel (19665 in chips)
Seat 2: Marton (6590 in chips)
Seat 3: Macneen (9075 in chips)
Seat 4: Danimal7880 (5920 in chips)
Seat 5: ChipFish (6705 in chips)
Seat 6: haxthisn0b (10945 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: shysti (22123 in chips)
Seat 8: Red Card (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: holdemaces23 (11882 in chips)
haxthisn0b: posts small blind 75
shysti: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shysti [4h 8d]
Red Card: folds
holdemaces23: folds
haxthisn0b has returned
triweasel: folds
Marton: folds
Macneen: folds
Danimal7880: folds
ChipFish: folds
haxthisn0b: raises 300 to 450
shysti: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [2c 3h 4s]
haxthisn0b: bets 450
shysti: raises 21223 to 21673 and is all-in
haxthisn0b: calls 10045 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [2c 3h 4s] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [2c 3h 4s 7d] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
haxthisn0b: shows [Ts Kh] (high card Ace)
shysti: shows [4h 8d] (a pair of Fours)
shysti said, "noob"
shysti collected 21890 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 21890 | Rake 0
Board [2c 3h 4s 7d As]
Seat 1: triweasel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Marton folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Macneen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Danimal7880 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ChipFish (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: haxthisn0b (small blind) showed [Ts Kh] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 7: shysti (big blind) showed [4h 8d] and won (21890) with a pair of Fours
Seat 8: Red Card folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: holdemaces23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


haha donkeys.

[shysti]

Welp at the next break, I almost had my goal but my friend is on IM with audio conference and playin damn drum n bass in my ear, distracted me and I just lost a big pot.

But it stands now I am at 27,643, 379 people left. goal is 45k so i have to get aggressive now.

[D3scride]

Yeah you're right. I didn't even notice the buyin level

instacall.

[shysti]

Sigh they've moved me to a very aggressive table, the damn chip leader is at our table coming over the top of me every time if not him someone else...

I am down to 16k, this guy has been playing for 25 years i looked him up on the pokerdb.com and he has like 67k in winnings I am on tilt.

[shysti]

Wow I had to fight just to survive to make it to the next break, every hand I went in with THE hat came over the top of me, finally I put in my last bit of my stack he turns over AA!!!

Well here it is:

PokerStars Game #2813704647: Tournament #13543649, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2005/10/15 - 22:35:53 (ET)
Table '13543649 99' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: GenericSoda (13433 in chips)
Seat 2: SuperNatKid (20905 in chips)
Seat 3: BulletsMcGee (12495 in chips)
Seat 4: S-Man 16 (20690 in chips)
Seat 5: mets7 (17247 in chips)
Seat 6: mark69 (9740 in chips)
Seat 7: shysti (5518 in chips)
Seat 8: soho kid 11 (19399 in chips)
Seat 9: The Hat (75758 in chips)
GenericSoda: posts the ante 25
SuperNatKid: posts the ante 25
BulletsMcGee: posts the ante 25
S-Man 16: posts the ante 25
mets7: posts the ante 25
mark69: posts the ante 25
shysti: posts the ante 25
soho kid 11: posts the ante 25
The Hat: posts the ante 25
GenericSoda: posts small blind 200
SuperNatKid: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shysti [Ac 6c]
BulletsMcGee: folds
S-Man 16: folds
mets7: folds
mark69: folds
shysti: raises 1400 to 1800
soho kid 11: folds
The Hat: raises 1400 to 3200
GenericSoda: folds
SuperNatKid: folds
shysti: raises 2293 to 5493 and is all-in
The Hat: calls 2293
*** FLOP *** [2h Tc 7c]
*** TURN *** [2h Tc 7c] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [2h Tc 7c Td] [5c]
The Hat said, "nice flop shysti"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shysti: shows [Ac 6c] (a flush, Ace high)
The Hat: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
shysti collected 11811 from pot
shysti said, "yes"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11811 | Rake 0
Board [2h Tc 7c Td 5c]
Seat 1: GenericSoda (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: SuperNatKid (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: BulletsMcGee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: S-Man 16 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mets7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mark69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: shysti showed [Ac 6c] and won (11811) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 8: soho kid 11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: The Hat (button) showed [As Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens

[shysti]

Omg what would you do part 3!!

I am at 12k and this table is kickin my butt, this guy goes over the top of me twice and I wanted to bust him so bad for that earlier, but check out our hand:

what would you do and what would you put him on, he's been very aggresive and coming over the top of all my bets every time..

PokerStars Game #2813884793: Tournament #13543649, Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2005/10/15 - 22:56:56 (ET)
Table '13543649 99' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: GenericSoda (12958 in chips)
Seat 2: SuperNatKid (8680 in chips)
Seat 3: robby850 (9904 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: S-Man 16 (15165 in chips)
Seat 5: mets7 (23992 in chips)
Seat 6: mark69 (20765 in chips)
Seat 7: shysti (12611 in chips)
Seat 8: Denotsko (23569 in chips)
Seat 9: The Hat (105114 in chips)
GenericSoda: posts the ante 50
SuperNatKid: posts the ante 50
robby850: posts the ante 50
S-Man 16: posts the ante 50
mets7: posts the ante 50
mark69: posts the ante 50
shysti: posts the ante 50
Denotsko: posts the ante 50
The Hat: posts the ante 50
Denotsko: posts small blind 300
The Hat: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shysti [Jd Jc]
GenericSoda: folds
SuperNatKid: raises 8030 to 8630 and is all-in
robby850: folds
S-Man 16: folds
mets7: folds
mark69: folds

What would you do? What do you think he has?

Reults here:

shysti: calls 8630
Denotsko: folds
The Hat: folds
*** FLOP *** [8c 9c 2h]
shysti said, "wehw"
*** TURN *** [8c 9c 2h] [5c]
shysti said, "hard call"
*** RIVER *** [8c 9c 2h 5c] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SuperNatKid: shows [Kc Qs] (high card King)
shysti: shows [Jd Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
The Hat said, "nh"
shysti collected 18610 from pot
shysti said, "i wanted to bust him so bad too"
shysti said, "from earlier"
mets7 said, "they started adding the bots 3 yrs ago ---"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18610 | Rake 0
Board [8c 9c 2h 5c 7d]
Seat 1: GenericSoda folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: SuperNatKid showed [Kc Qs] and lost with high card King
Seat 3: robby850 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: S-Man 16 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mets7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mark69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: shysti (button) showed [Jd Jc] and won (18610) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 8: Denotsko (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: The Hat (big blind) folded before Flop

[shysti]

sigh finished 166th place

[JeffreyGB]

What would you do hands:
1st hand: call. I can see a flush or even some two pair hands thinking they can play this and win/get people to fold
2nd hand: Fold preflop. I give up trying to take it down after the flop call
3rd hand: Call. This might be a mistake, because I could see you being in a coinflip pretty easily, but I think they may also make this play with many hands that you dominate.

[Tommydx]

What is a deep stack tournament? Starting with more chips? How much?

[shysti]

You start with 5k in chips, and the blinds start wayy low at 10/20 and they increase at 30 min intervals instead of 15. Great structure, but long as hell.

[allLiving]

The tourney takes like 8-12 hours to finish on average. It's FUN and gives you alot of experience.