10+1. I play too passively on the turn and river.

[vqc]

I missed a river value bet didnt I.


***** Hand History for Game 2983325177 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:17148554 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Saturday, November 05, 01:12:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 67040 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: LUKY212 ( $815 )
Seat 5: IModFTR ( $1530 )
Seat 6: GONESH ( $985 )
Seat 7: Josh718 ( $2140 )
Seat 8: thommo_ ( $1705 )
Seat 9: ggary333 ( $825 )
Trny:17148554 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to IModFTR [ Tc Ac ]
thommo_ folds.
ggary333 folds.
LUKY212 folds.
IModFTR raises [250].
GONESH folds.
Josh718 calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Ad, 2d ]
Josh718 checks.
IModFTR bets [300].
Josh718 calls [300].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
Josh718 checks.
IModFTR checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
Josh718 checks.
IModFTR checks.

[Fortune 500]

Yep. You might be outkicked, but I think most bigger aces have raised/reraised somewhere by now, and anything better than that value bets the river himself.

[AHiltz]

There is no way (unless a very specific read says otherwise) that I give a free card on the turn. Make him pay for a flush.

[vqc]

There is no way (unless a very specific read says otherwise) that I give a free card on the turn. Make him pay for a flush.

How often do you think he is drawing to a flush here?

[vqc]

If im betting the turn, its gonna be a push.
If I bet the turn wihtout pushing the pot is going to be so big that I pretty much have to go all in anyways on the river.

[AHiltz]

About 40% of the time. I just noticed it was $20 and not a $10 buyin, shit.

I'd rather push then give him the chance to buy the pot. What do you do if you check then he pushes on the river?

[vqc]

About 40% of the time. I just noticed it was $20 and not a $10 buyin, shit.

I'd rather push then give him the chance to buy the pot. What do you do if you check then he pushes on the river?

shit I thought this was tenner too.
roflcone I dont even kno wat IM playing anymore.
thats a good thing right? =D
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Well, if you think that the check/call, check represents a flush draw then its the best play to push the turn.

[Miffed22001]

id push that turn, hoping im not outkicked or riverd

[elanto]

im also pushing the turn...the way hes been playing up till the turn it seems hes on a draw so make him pay for it...

-anto