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  1. #1

    Default Bad play here or no?

    What would you put the villain on here? I'm not sure I should have called that flop bet, but with an over-pair and nearly nut flush draw, it was irresistible. Should I have done something differently?

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    saw flop|saw showdown

    BB (t1145)
    UTG (t3765)
    MP (t2340)
    Silverfist (t3830)
    SB (t2420)

    Preflop: Silverfist is Button with K, K.
    UTG calls t100, MP calls t100, Silverfist raises to t300, 2 folds, UTG calls t200, MP folds.

    Flop: (t850) 6, 8, 4 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Silverfist bets t425, UTG raises to t1500, Silverfist calls t1075.

    Turn: (t3850) 2 (2 players)
    UTG bets t1965 (All-In), Silverfist calls t1965.

    River: (t7780) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: t7780
    Main Pot: t7780 (t7780), between UTG and Silverfist.
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  2. #2
    raise the flop harder. You make a standard preflop raise, but you've got two limpers and the blinds in, thus offering 2-1 for anyone to limp into the pot. Those are pretty good odds for calling. Consider making it 500 to go. You got it to heads up, which is the end goal, but I have a feeling MP makes a mistake here by folding when he was technically getting about 3-1, so you lucked out. You've got the best of it here, and there's some nice dead money out there to entice a call. Something to consider.

    There's a lot of hands that can beat you on the flop, but I think you're priced in to call, particularly holding the King of Clubs.

    I assume he had the ace, or we wouldn't be discussing this?

    Not played badly... I think you've got to call.

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    Thanks for the advice. I'm thinking of increasing my continuation bets when there's a draw on the board, just to chase people out a bit more.

    He had a set of sixes, which means that he didn't have a club. Basically, his turn bet was a bluff. Unfortunately, he filled out his full house on the river.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by silverfist
    Thanks for the advice. I'm thinking of increasing my continuation bets when there's a draw on the board, just to chase people out a bit more.

    He had a set of sixes, which means that he didn't have a club. Basically, his turn bet was a bluff. Unfortunately, he filled out his full house on the river.
    I could see sixes making the call given the pot size. Raising your Kings harder might have folded them... but then again, do you really want that, in the long run.

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  5. #5
    i pot this flop...and push the flop after he raises........
  6. #6

    Default Re: Bad play here or no?

    Can't remember if I said this, but the default play when planning to raise preflop is to raise 3xBB + 1BB for each limper. Minimally, you should be raising this hand to 500 preflop. Just so you know, UTG will have 3.25:1 pot odds to call, and if UTG does call, MP will have 4.25:1 pot odds.

    On the flop. once you're reraised, just push allin at that point. Your redraw is strong, but he is not likely folding. FWIW, I think a c/r like that is a pretty damn good hand (or drawing to a good hand), and if you did not have the King of clubs, it would make this hand more difficult to play.

    Pushing on the flop accomplishes a couple of things. It puts the decision back into the other bigstacks hands again. Furthermore, if you really are behind here, you still draw to the remaining 2 Ks, or the remaining clubs. The only other sucky outcome is if he has like A4, with the A of clubs.

    Regardless, more of your problems could be averted if you raised more preflop. Raising more preflop makes making big protective flop bets more reasonable. When they are smallish like this, you wind up making these other non-pot committing bets that people can try and raise you with. (I did like your flop bet btw - a tad more is better)
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    Default Re: Bad play here or no?

    I agree with Scuba here.

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