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  1. #1

    Default ICM for Tournaments?

    I have been reading up on ICM and how it can be used for SNG. Is it possible to use it for MTTs? With SNG you are usually looking at one table of 3 eventual ITM. I can figure that out no problem. But, when you deal with a large tourney I think that you would be looking at a large group of ITM, right? This would make things difficult.

    I would like to see if the following hand was a good play or if I should have folded by using ICM. If not, I welcome people's insight of whether this was a fold, call, or all in. I was 53% to 46% preflop.

    There were roughly 160 people left with a payout of 63. The tourney started with 769. Thanks for your help.


    PokerStars Game #3047702309: Tournament #14705554, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII
    (200/400) - 2005/11/13 - 11:08:50 (ET)
    Table '14705554 76' Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: DPenman (6076 in chips)
    Seat 2: cyc24 (4705 in chips)
    Seat 3: golf0802 (10060 in chips)
    Seat 4: steevel (9005 in chips)
    Seat 5: MJD17 (3875 in chips)
    Seat 6: Sprayed (4905 in chips)
    Seat 7: Explizidy (8220 in chips)
    Seat 8: Mr Peters (26550 in chips)
    Seat 9: joudjoud (7265 in chips)
    DPenman: posts the ante 25
    cyc24: posts the ante 25
    golf0802: posts the ante 25
    steevel: posts the ante 25
    MJD17: posts the ante 25
    Sprayed: posts the ante 25
    Explizidy: posts the ante 25
    Mr Peters: posts the ante 25
    joudjoud: posts the ante 25
    joudjoud: posts small blind 200
    DPenman: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Sprayed [Td Tc]
    cyc24: folds
    golf0802: folds
    steevel: raises 1000 to 1400
    MJD17: folds
    Sprayed: raises 3480 to 4880 and is all-in
    Explizidy: folds
    Mr Peters: folds
    joudjoud: folds
    DPenman: folds
    steevel: calls 3480
    *** FLOP *** [Qh 8s Ad]
    *** TURN *** [Qh 8s Ad] [9d]
    *** RIVER *** [Qh 8s Ad 9d] [Qs]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    steevel: shows [As Ks] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
    Sprayed: shows [Td Tc] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
    steevel collected 10585 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 10585 | Rake 0
    Board [Qh 8s Ad 9d Qs]
    Seat 1: DPenman (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: cyc24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: golf0802 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: steevel showed [As Ks] and won (10585) with two pair, Aces and Queens
    Seat 5: MJD17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Sprayed showed [Td Tc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens
    Seat 7: Explizidy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Mr Peters (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: joudjoud (small blind) folded before Flop
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    I somewhat understand the concept of ICM, but would never be able to figure out the math in the time allotted to make a decision on-line so haven't really delved into it.

    As far as your play - it was correct. And so was your opp's play - poker sucks sometimes.
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    I'm ok with the beat. I just want to be sure if it was the correct play if I encounter it in the future.
    Thanks

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