Situation that comes up a lot. Discuss.

[ilikeaces86]

#Game No : 3030302598
***** Hand History for Game 3030302598 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:17382727 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Sunday, November 13, 15:30:16 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1067373 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: mmrab ( $840 )
Seat 3: scrubs729 ( $1630 )
Seat 4: Handtaker ( $1100 )
Seat 7: kamal1974 ( $2275 )
Seat 9: i_likeaces8 ( $930 )
Seat 8: BEINTUITIVE ( $865 )
Seat 10: dctaber ( $900 )
Seat 5: figarelli27 ( $945 )
Seat 6: randali ( $515 )
Trny:17382727 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to i_likeaces8 [ Kc Kh ]
>You have options at Table 67430 Table!.
dctaber folds.
mmrab calls [50].
>You have options at Table 68352 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67733 Table!.
scrubs729 folds.
>You have options at Table 67894 Table!.
Handtaker calls [50].
figarelli27 folds.
randali calls [50].
kamal1974 calls [50].
>You have options at Table 67430 Table!.
BEINTUITIVE calls [25].
>You have options at Table 68352 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67894 Table!.
i_likeaces8 raises [200].
mmrab folds.
Handtaker folds.
randali calls [200].
kamal1974 calls [200].
BEINTUITIVE folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ As, 4h, 6s ]
i_likeaces8 checks.
randali checks.
kamal1974 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
>You have options at Table 67991 Table!.
i_likeaces8 checks.
>You have options at Table 67358 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67430 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67894 Table!.
randali is all-In [265]
>You have options at Table 67733 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67430 Table!.
kamal1974 folds.
i_likeaces8 calls [265].
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]

[drdeutsch]

It's just me, but I'd throw a feeler bet out there.

Pot's about 900... maybe 300-450. If I get callers, I check turn and river unless a K shows.

drdeutsch

[ilikeaces86]

It's just me, but I'd throw a feeler bet out there.

Pot's about 900... maybe 300-450. If I get callers, I check turn and river unless a K shows.

drdeutsch

If you put out 400 on flop you are only going to get called/raised by hands that have you beat. Plus you leave yourself like no stack if you fold if you get raised at that point. Betting ths flop is very baaaad.

[Robert]

This hand reminds me of the discussion in this thread: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=21766.

The situations arent the same, but I think the same thinking applies. No hand that you beat will call you, and by checking you give your opponent the chance of betting with a hand that you beat. With that kind of uncordinated board you arent affraid of giving opp a free card, cuz the one card you really fear is already on the flop. In the long run checking will yield most chips (or said differently: checking will make you loose less chips in the run).

[drdeutsch]

You're right. I neglected to look at the size of your stack.

[Aplomado]

Question: I can see checking the flop, but how do you know if your hand is good unless you at least put out a bet on the Turn?

[LeFou]

i think you're prepared to call a turn bet but fold to a river bet (that's the one-sentence version of the whole other thread)

[Alibi]

Folding on the river is entirely up to your read of the player (and bet size/blind size etc)

[Aquinas]

I like the way u played it after that less than nice flop. But I would have bet more preflop. maybe 250.

[MAX]

I like your line post flop, but think the preflop raise was not big enough. With 5 limpers + your bb, there is 300 in the pot when the action gets to you. I think 250 is the minimum raise, both to isolate and to give bad odds to someone with a draw. I wouldn't mind taking the blinds w/out confrontation, and at this buyin level, I think someone might suspect you of making a move and lossen up their calling req. (just guessing as I don't play the 400s). Also, pushing may discourage people from limping on your bb, and somebody has got a pp and may call you.

[AHiltz]

Like was said, 250 min PF. If still 2 callers and A on flop a check is required. Call that turn bet.