PP 10+1. QQ

[vqc]

***** Hand History for Game 3080080889 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17646339 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Tuesday, November 22, 23:15:49 EDT 2005
Table Table 68292 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: VikesBeatPak ( $700 )
Seat 2: Richard798 ( $1300 )
Seat 3: drewbeaud ( $675 )
Seat 4: friedrich33 ( $630 )
Seat 5: Mikis_Khan ( $675 )
Seat 6: pimnjimy ( $475 )
Seat 7: izbetor ( $810 )
Seat 8: IModFTR ( $800 )
Seat 9: dtinger ( $1095 )
Seat 10: badandy222 ( $840 )
Trny:17646339 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to IModFTR [ Qc Qd ]
dtinger raises [30].
badandy222 folds.
VikesBeatPak folds.
Richard798 calls [30].
drewbeaud folds.
friedrich33 folds.
Mikis_Khan folds.
pimnjimy calls [30].
izbetor calls [20].
IModFTR raises [185].
dtinger raises [340].
Richard798 folds.
pimnjimy folds.
izbetor folds.
IModFTR calls [170].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, Jh, Ks ]
IModFTR checks.
dtinger bets [125].
IModFTR folds.
dtinger does not show cards.
dtinger wins 955 chips


Discuss.
AA bad
KK bad
AK bad
JJ bad

[mcatdog]

Without a read, I would fold preflop to his reraise. Minraise from UTG plus minreraise = AA (maybe KK). But I'm probably the most weak-tight player on this board on Party Level 1.

[vqc]

170 to call into a 600 pot.
I think I can destack him if a Q flops.

[nogenius]

I posted a hand similar to this today, and it would be better to fold to the re-raise because you're likely at best a coinflip because the re-raising range is usually AA,KK,AK.

[vqc]

if it cost u 100 chips to call a reriase into a 1k pot.
would u? even if u knew he had AA or KK?

[Trikflow77]

if it cost u 100 chips to call a reriase into a 1k pot.
would u? even if u knew he had AA or KK?

To this i would say no, being that you r a 22 to 1 underdog.....but if hes deep stacked and u know he gives you another 2k if you hit...yea i call all day.

He bet 125 into a 1k pot and you folded. I find a bet this size is weakness....i think i push the flop here. Agaist bad players a bet like this mean i missed but im going to bet it anyway. When i bet that weak....it means i flopped a monster and i want to to think so and come over the top. In a 11, i am going over the top here and watching this guy fold about 75% of the time.

[vqc]

if it cost u 100 chips to call a reriase into a 1k pot.
would u? even if u knew he had AA or KK?

To this i would say no, being that you r a 22 to 1 underdog.....but if hes deep stacked and u know he gives you another 2k if you hit...yea i call all day.

He bet 125 into a 1k pot and you folded. I find a bet this size is weakness....i think i push the flop here. Agaist bad players a bet like this mean i missed but im going to bet it anyway. When i bet that weak....it means i flopped a monster and i want to to think so and come over the top. In a 11, i am going over the top here and watching this guy fold about 75% of the time.

i thought his bet was peculiar too
i had no idea whether or not it was weak or strong
all i know is that with his PF action alot of his hands hit the board.
That J makde things harder too.

[mcatdog]

170 to call into a 600 pot.
I think I can destack him if a Q flops.

170 to win 1400 are your implied odds. Those are about 8:1 odds, and you don't want to make a break-even bet for a lot of your chips if you are better than the other players at this table.

Also, you won't even win 100 percent of the time even when a Q flops (for example, if the flop is AQx, you're not getting away). If you think you're queens are no good, and they probably aren't, just chuck them preflop.