KQs on the bubble

[SaulPaul]

Is there anyway im ahead by the river? His betting seems pretty strong. I guess i was hoping that he had KJ too much.
Its on the bubble and folding on the river would of left me about the same chips as 4th place (about 10xBB), and im pretty of sure i would got 4th( he didnt seem to believe in blind stealing).
But if i call and win this hand im the chip leader with a comfortable lead.

I checked raised the flop, because if seen this guy play before, adn pretty much he always makes continuation bets HU.

Or is a fold preflop? I wasnt getting 4:1 odds i needed to hit



SaulPaul posted small blind (150)
> GOLD_PANDA posted big blind (300)

Dealt to SaulPaul (KcQ c)

> Game # 590,225,282 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards
> carriair folded
> Yohansen folded
> andreaspoker raised for 600
> SaulPaul called for 450
> GOLD_PANDA folded

> Dealing the Flop(Kd8h10d)

> SaulPaul checked
> andreaspoker bet for 300
> SaulPaul raised for 900
> andreaspoker called for 600
> Dealing the turn(7s)
> SaulPaul checked
> andreaspoker bet for 1,800
> SaulPaul, you have 10 seconds to respond
> SaulPaul called for 1,800
> Dealing the river(3c)
> SaulPaul checked
> andreaspoker bet for 3,300
> SaulPaul went all-in for 3,260

[silverfist]

Hmm... tough hand.

I would definitely call that pre-flop. KQs is sweet. It's probably not worth a reraise, though, especially without position.

I don't like your check-raise on the flop. You have a very nice hand but not a lock, so you should just bet out with it. The problem with the check raise is that you need to lead out next hand, and if you don't bet, you'll look very weak.

Given the way things went, I'd fold this on the turn. J9 is too unlikely for that big raise preflop, so I'd guess you're facing AK or maybe 10s here. Maybe QJ, but it's hard to tell since your check-raise-check gave too good a bluffing opportunity.

The basic principle, though, is, unless you're willing to push with it, don't check-raise with it

[SaulPaul]

have only just realised i checked the turn! dont know why i did that, i obvioulsy wasnt trying to check raise him again

[krimson]

Preflop call is fine. While he could be stealing with any sort of garbage KQs isn't a hand to get carried away with preflop. If you flop top pair you're probably good though.
Then it's HU on the flop, you make top pair second kicker, there's 1500 in the pot and you have 5000 left. I would look to get as many chips into the pot as quickly as possible. If he has you beat tough luck. Stacks are too shallow to back off.
Check-raising the flop when you expect him to cbet is good. Making a wimpy check-raise is bad. He has to call 600 when there is already 2700 in the pot. You give him odds to call with practically anything (especially considering that he has position).
A potsized raise practically commits you, so pushing seems reasonable. Maybe the aren't very many second-best hands that will call you, but the pot is already juicy, half the cards in the deck are potential scare cards and you don't have position, so I wouldn't grieve if I didn't see a turn here.
When you get a not-all-that-scary card on the turn I definitely think it's time to push or fold. Push, to be precise. Check-calling the turn and river loses you just as much as pushing when you are behind and wins you less (or gets you outdrawn) when you're ahead (unless you manage to induce a bluff, but I don't think it's worth the risks here).

J9 is too unlikely for that big raise preflop

Um, he minraised on the button. I think we can confidently deduce that op has between 1 and 3 cards, but not much more.

[A10Chief]

I'd push the flop. You're probably ahead. Don't mess around with the guy. Take it down right there.

[aislephive]

Your min-raise puts you in a predicament. He would've reraised with AK, so I think your kicker is good here. KJ or KT is possible, but I think his hand range is very wide. He might not fold 93o to a minraise from the SB. On the flop he's acting like he's on a flush draw or straight draw. He would probably check if he flopped two pair to induce a bet on the turn. His river bet seems like a busted flush draw and he's trying to buy the pot. By checking the river you let him make a big bet to push you out of the pot. You can't check-call the turn though. It's all in or fold.

[MAX]

Just a shot in the dark here, but did he have 78suited?

[Fortune 500]

I'd push the flop. You're probably ahead. Don't mess around with the guy. Take it down right there.

Precisely

[SaulPaul]

yeah i guess i should of bet more on the flop. the check on the turn was crappy too. he turned over 6 9o to complete his inside str8 draw on the turn