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  1. #1

    Default Bad hand/bluff

    I know I played this hand badly, no excuse but I had folded about 20-30 hand preflop before this one cause they were total trash ( i was a bit tilted by this hand. I know not good). I attempted to push him off the pot. After flop I still had str8 draw. My question is though how did my opponent make the calls he did with his hand? How could he have know his hand was good. I had just joined the table a few hands before? How much do I have to bet to get ppl to let go of trash?

    Table "Basseterre" (real money) -- Seat 4 is the button
    Seat 1: spam88 ($59.00 in chips)
    Seat 3: enchanter ($110.50 in chips)
    Seat 4: esolm ($34.75 in chips)
    Seat 5: localcaddie ($74.00 in chips)
    Seat 6: captainjoe79 ($115.25 in chips)
    Seat 7: Ugly Ed ($40.25 in chips)
    Seat 8: ckrockets21 ($36.75 in chips)
    Seat 9: my_gem ($58.50 in chips)
    Seat 10: mayhem29 ($154.75 in chips)
    localcaddie: Post Small Blind ($0.50)
    captainjoe79: Post Big Blind ($1)
    Dealing...
    Dealt to Ugly Ed [ Ah ]
    Dealt to Ugly Ed [ Jd ]
    Ugly Ed : Raise ($4)
    ckrockets21: Fold
    my_gem : Fold
    mayhem29: Fold
    spam88 : Fold
    enchanter: Fold
    esolm : Call ($4)
    localcaddie: Fold
    captainjoe79: Call ($3)
    *** FLOP *** : [ Kh Ts 3s ]
    captainjoe79: Bet ($5)
    Ugly Ed : Raise ($10)
    esolm : Fold
    captainjoe79: Raise ($10)
    Ugly Ed : Call ($5)
    *** TURN *** : [ Kh Ts 3s ] [ 4h ]
    captainjoe79: Bet ($13)
    Ugly Ed : Call ($13)
    *** RIVER *** : [ Kh Ts 3s 4h ] [ 5h ]
    captainjoe79: Bet ($4)
    Ugly Ed : Call ($4)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Pot: $73.50 | Rake: $3
    Board: [ Kh Ts 3s 4h 5h ]
    spam88 didn't bet (folded)
    McMulan didn't bet
    enchanter didn't bet (folded)
    esolm lost $4 (folded)
    localcaddie lost $0.50 (folded)
    captainjoe79 bet $36, collected $73.50, net +$37.50 (showed hand) [ 7c Kc ] (a pair of kings)
    Ugly Ed lost $36 [ Ah Jd ] (high card ace)
    ckrockets21 didn't bet (folded)
    my_gem didn't bet (folded)
    mayhem29 didn't bet (folded)
  2. #2
    He's a fish, the clue is in the K7

    We like fish, try not to bluff them though...
  3. #3
    On the flop he has top pair which to him probably equates to pretty much the nuts, hes not folding the turn or river if your just calling him down.
  4. #4

    Default Re: Bad hand/bluff

    Quote Originally Posted by Ugly Ed
    My question is though how did my opponent make the calls he did with his hand?
    ...

    *** RIVER *** : [ Kh Ts 3s 4h ] [ 5h ]
    captainjoe79: Bet ($4)
    Ugly Ed : Call ($4)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    captainjoe79 bet $36, collected $73.50, net +$37.50 (showed hand) [ 7c Kc ] (a pair of kings)
    Ugly Ed lost $36 [ Ah Jd ] (high card ace)
    Not to be too critical, but why call that river?
    Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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    How much do I have to bet to get ppl to let go of trash?
    Reverse your thinking: How much will he call when I have the nuts?
  6. #6
    Bluffing when two face cards (ten included) hit and you miss both seems like a bad idea to me (exception when you have a draw to the nut flush/straight). The gut shot just isn't strong enough to make that move. Fortunately It's now obvious this guy will pay your TPTK off later when he hits TPNK... just remember that and wait for the opportunity.

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