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  1. #1

    Default Was fold the right thing to do or call to the river?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    Button (t755)
    SB (t770)
    BB (t770)
    UTG (t915)
    UTG+1 (t800)
    UTG+2 (t800)
    Hero (t800)
    MP2 (t800)
    MP3 (t800)
    CO (t790)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6, 6.
    UTG calls t15, 1 fold, UTG+2 raises to t55, Hero calls t55, 1 fold, MP3 calls t55, 1 fold, Button calls t55, 2 folds, UTG calls t40.

    Flop: (t297.50) K, J, K (5 players)
    UTG checks, UTG+2 bets t50, Hero folds, MP3 folds, Button folds, UTG raises to t100, UTG+2 calls t50.

    Turn: (t497.50) 5 (2 players)
    UTG checks, UTG+2 bets t75, UTG raises to t325, UTG+2 calls t250.

    River: (t1147.50) 6 (2 players)

    Final Pot: t1147.50
  2. #2

    Default Re: Was fold the right thing to do or call to the river?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad13
    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    Button (t755)
    SB (t770)
    BB (t770)
    UTG (t915)
    UTG+1 (t800)
    UTG+2 (t800)
    Hero (t800)
    MP2 (t800)
    MP3 (t800)
    CO (t790)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6, 6.
    UTG calls t15, 1 fold, UTG+2 raises to t55, Hero calls t55, 1 fold, MP3 calls t55, 1 fold, Button calls t55, 2 folds, UTG calls t40.

    Flop: (t297.50) K, J, K (5 players)
    UTG checks, UTG+2 bets t50, Hero folds, MP3 folds, Button folds, UTG raises to t100, UTG+2 calls t50.

    Turn: (t497.50) 5 (2 players)
    UTG checks, UTG+2 bets t75, UTG raises to t325, UTG+2 calls t250.

    River: (t1147.50) 6 (2 players)

    Final Pot: t1147.50
    Judging from the betting, I think you are behind on the flop. If we assume that one player has either a King or a pocket pair higher than 6's; and the other player has either a Jack or a pocket pair higher than 6's then you have less than a 9% chance of winning the hand. With the stacks at that depth, you could never recover enough on your rare win to make up for the loses on all the other hands.

    Folding there is a good thing. In fact, I would tend to fold preflop against that raise with so many people left to act. A pair of 6's will likely need help to win in a multiway pot. You will only get that help 12% of the time on the flop. that means that 7 out of 8 times you lose your 55 chips for a total lose of 385 chips. The one time out of 8 that you hit, you will need to win 385 chips to make playing them EV neutral. Most people like to play low pocket pairs in late position against several limpers so you have good odds. Calling a 3xBB raise from an EP raiser when you, yourself, are also in early position is a dicey proposition. If a late position player re-raises what would you do?
    Pyroxene
  3. #3
    I agree, I'm folding that preflop to the raise, and in that position... but to answer your question- yes folding the flop looks right to me..you missed the set- get outta there.
  4. #4
    Here is my question to you toad.

    For what reason did you call the preflop raise?
    What would give you a reason to call the flop?
  5. #5
    It's obvious you missed my first post "how stupid am I"
  6. #6
    Would you even ask this if the 6 did not hit on the river ?
    Fold on the flop


  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Would you even ask this if the 6 did not hit on the river ?
    Fold on the flop
    no but then I would be high card for ever
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    um standard fold.
  9. #9
    yeah..easy fold on the flop there..just a suggestion

    don't be results oriented..you knew u were behind there, it was the right play, so you woulda hit no big deal move on and keep ur head up high.

    also, in party sngs with only 800 starting chips i usually wont even call a preflop raise with any pp less than 88 just because its not worth it at that time, but i am very aggressive when the blinds get up so the closer i am to the 800 starting chips when the blinds hit 50/100 or 75/150 the better.
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by dodgerfan29
    also, in party sngs with only 800 starting chips i usually wont even call a preflop raise with any pp less than 88 just because its not worth it at that time, but i am very aggressive when the blinds get up so the closer i am to the 800 starting chips when the blinds hit 50/100 or 75/150 the better.
    wats the difference between 88 and 99
  11. #11
    I want to thank all of you for sharing your poker knowledge, I just got 55 again but this time I folded as noted here and all high cards hit. The toad is slow but not dumb.
  12. #12
    Yea it was the right thing, you were way behind on the flop with all the bets...
    I am that fish...


    currently broke as a joke...
  13. #13
    You know where the hand ended? "Hero folds."

    Don't think beyond that.
  14. #14
    once again I got 66 and folded pre flop after think of this post.
    thanks again I think I am getting better. Will be able to take on vqc soon.

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