how dumb did i play this hand?

[pkrprodan]

be honest...


NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $5+$1 (real money), #1,536,262,098
5+0.5 NL Holdem Multi Table Tournament, 1 Dec 2005 9:17 AM ET
Seat 1: hade xx ($935 in chips)
Seat 2: Ousorius ($2,230 in chips)
Seat 3: camsto ($2,670 in chips)
Seat 4: Tiruccio ($3,020 in chips)
Seat 5: glider30 ($4,980 in chips)
Seat 6: jointheclub_ ($1,160 in chips)
Seat 7: allerina21 ($4,465 in chips)
Seat 8: oh my head ($3,507 in chips)
Seat 9: IDODGBULLETS ($6,820 in chips)
Seat 10: jakelake111 ($2,970 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
IDODGBULLETS posts blind ($50), jakelake111 posts blind ($100).

PRE-FLOP
hade xx folds, Ousorius folds, camsto bets $300, Tiruccio calls $300, glider30 folds, jointheclub_ folds, allerina21 folds, oh my head folds, IDODGBULLETS calls $250, jakelake111 folds.

FLOP [board cards 9C,4C,2H ]
IDODGBULLETS checks, camsto bets $550, Tiruccio calls $550, IDODGBULLETS folds.

TURN [board cards 9C,4C,2H,8C ]
camsto bets $800, Tiruccio calls $800.

RIVER [board cards 9C,4C,2H,8C,8H ]
camsto bets $1,020 and is all-in, Tiruccio calls $1,020.

SHOWDOWN
camsto shows [ JH,JD ]
Tiruccio shows [ QS,QD ]
Tiruccio wins $5,740.
SUMMARY
Dealer: oh my head
Pot: $5,740
hade xx, loses $0
Ousorius, loses $0
camsto, loses $2,670
Tiruccio, bets $2,670, collects $5,740, net $3,070
glider30, loses $0
jointheclub_, loses $0
allerina21, loses $0
oh my head, loses $0
IDODGBULLETS, loses $300
jakelake111, loses $100

[vqc]

so uh which guy were u and wat hand did u have
and dotn post the results.

[Sprayed]

Oh my loard vq. That's some pic! I think I just had an accident at work.

[PokerPatNEU]

If i'm Camsto i'm slowing down when he calls the flop. Definitely not betting the turn when the 3rd club falls, definitely not betting the river after he calls the turn.

If i'm Tirrutio i'm playing it the same pretty much, i probably reraise the flop and get it all in on the turn.


So on a scale of 1 to Dumb, i think you played this one about a 4 or a 7, depending on who you were.

[silverfist]

It's a tough hand. I don't think you played it terribly, but I would have definitely slowed down on the turn, more out of fear of the flush than of an overpair. Since he didn't reraise pre-flop, a QQ was an unlikely holding, but you do need to be aware of that kind of thing.

Good but not great hands out of position are hard to play. Mostly, you want to slow down on the turn if a scare card falls. I like to slow down on the turn generally out of position, and give the opponent a chance to act. Often, they'll just check, and then you know you're probably ahead. If they bet, you can call if it's not too much money and they'll often check the river since check-calls are scary. If they push, you're probably behind and then you can fold. If you're feeling lucky, you can even check-raise and often that'll scare better good but not great hands out of the pot (it wouldn't have worked in this case, though).

[pkrprodan]

yep, sorry i was camsto...thanks for replies.

[azureXsmurF]

Oh my loard vq. That's some pic! I think I just had an accident at work.

I concur.

[pkrprodan]

wat about this one?? what would u have done?
the guy had just joined the table.

NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $5+$1 (real money), #1,538,153,621
5+0.5 NL Holdem Multi Table Tournament, 1 Dec 2005 7:27 PM ET
Seat 1: 1Lonnie ($2,745 in chips)
Seat 2: pocKKet ($2,215 in chips)
Seat 3: doxydgr ($1,490 in chips)
Seat 4: camsto ($4,140 in chips)
Seat 5: wareagle89x ($4,750 in chips)
Seat 6: Reidbhai ($2,435 in chips)
Seat 7: rodiesh1 ($1,140 in chips)
Seat 8: Resonator ($2,460 in chips)
Seat 9: NYyanksSUK ($630 in chips)
Seat 10: osmith ($4,700 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Reidbhai posts blind ($75), rodiesh1 posts blind ($150).

dealt to camsto [ JS,AS ]

PRE-FLOP
Resonator folds, NYyanksSUK folds, osmith folds, 1Lonnie folds, pocKKet bets $400, doxydgr folds, camsto calls $400, wareagle89x folds, Reidbhai folds, rodiesh1 folds.

FLOP [board cards 7C,AH,6C ]
pocKKet bets $400, camsto bets $800, pocKKet bets $1,415 and is all-in, camsto...

[silverfist]

I'd fold that. What could he have that you can beat? He's almost certainly not pushing with AT or lower, and he wouldn't do so without an ace. You're behind here. After you called, your raise isn't bad, since you do have top pair, after all. You need to get information. You got the information, and it's time to fold.

I'd fold that pre-flop actually. I hate calling early or mid position raises with AJo. I'd rather call with suited connectors. The problem is that you're too often dominated. If you hit your ace, you're often behind. If you don't hit your ace, you're almost certainly behind. The best result for you is a jack-high flop. If your opponent checked the flop, you can probably steal with AJ, but you can steal with 72o or suited connectors, too. That's why AJ is usually bad to call raises with. AJs is a different story, but in that case you're hoping for something like overcards plus a flush draw.

[pkrprodan]

my hand was ajs...but even still i made an error.

the guy had ako btw...

[silverfist]

my hand was ajs...but even still i made an error.

the guy had ako btw...

Oops. My mistake. I like your call preflop, then. I'd still fold that flop, though. Being outkicked in these circumstances sucks .