20+2. AK, playing the turn...

[vqc]

***** Hand History for Game 3176967824 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:18157421 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Saturday, December 10, 12:59:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 67420 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: a_NuckinFut ( $815 )
Seat 2: DP3323 ( $725 )
Seat 3: tls013 ( $710 )
Seat 4: koozemani ( $800 )
Seat 5: dabsop ( $790 )
Seat 6: kbdotcom ( $815 )
Seat 7: jhonny11 ( $870 )
Seat 8: TheBoneHer ( $775 )
Seat 9: mxpxsteven ( $780 )
Seat 10: dogg29er ( $920 )
Trny:18157421 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheBoneHer [ As Ks ]
DP3323 folds.
tls013 folds.
koozemani folds.
dabsop folds.
kbdotcom calls [15].
jhonny11 folds.
TheBoneHer calls [15].
mxpxsteven folds.
dogg29er calls [5].
a_NuckinFut checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 2h, Qc ]
dogg29er checks.
a_NuckinFut checks.
kbdotcom checks.
TheBoneHer checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
dogg29er bets [50].
a_NuckinFut calls [50].
kbdotcom calls [50].
TheBoneHer calls [50].
** Dealing River ** [ 4h ]
dogg29er bets [50].
a_NuckinFut calls [50].
kbdotcom raises [325].
TheBoneHer folds.

What Am I fighting for here on the turn?
TOo passive ont he turn?

[Fortune 500]

Interesting decision to call before the flop rather than raise.... but not bad if you're springing a trap if you hit. Very dangerous multiway. I more like a call heads up.

Your trap card hits on the turn... I think you've got to reraise here, but nothing crazy. With that much action, it's highly plausible a two was slow rolling and is now scared by the flush draw, or we've got draws semi-bluffing.

Because of how it was played on the PF-Turn... You're clearly done with the hand on the river.

[vqc]

Interesting decision to call before the flop rather than raise.... but not bad if you're springing a trap if you hit. Very dangerous multiway. I more like a call heads up.

Your trap card hits on the turn... I think you've got to reraise here, but nothing crazy. With that much action, it's highly plausible a two was slow rolling and is now scared by the flush draw, or we've got draws semi-bluffing.

Because of how it was played on the PF-Turn... You're clearly done with the hand on the river.

not raising early on in a shallow stack tourney
keeps the pot small.
very very important.
im starting ot learn that alot of NL Poker is controlling pot size.
Control Control Control, YOU MUST LEARN CONTROL (movie quote. anyone besides rilla).

doles nayone else have an opinion on the hand?

[Fortune 500]

[quote="vqc"]

Control Control Control, YOU MUST LEARN CONTROL (movie quote. anyone besides rilla).

Empire Strikes Back?

All I'm saying is raise before the flop, and you win this hand

[zenbitz]

Did you seriously post a quote from THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK as a quiz?

I can understand keeping the pot small, but if you are only betting the nut flush, then you are better off folding than limping. A 3xraise is only 45 chips, and I don't mind check/folding on that flop.

As played... raise the turn to make them pay for the heart draw. Hopfully a 2 re-raises.

I know what you mean about pot size... this is why I hate these 800 chippers.

[aislephive]

I don't blame you for limping in early with AKs here, but with that board I don't bother getting involved. It's an unraised pot, and it's somewhat likely one of the blinds is holding a two in their hand, in which case you're drawing thin. I fold to the turn bet here.

[vqc]

Did you seriously post a quote from THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK as a quiz?

I can understand keeping the pot small, but if you are only betting the nut flush, then you are better off folding than limping. A 3xraise is only 45 chips, and I don't mind check/folding on that flop.

As played... raise the turn to make them pay for the heart draw. Hopfully a 2 re-raises.

I know what you mean about pot size... this is why I hate these 800 chippers.

THe problem with a PFR is that I will often raise to 45
get 2 or 3 callers
the pot is now at 150 and any significant cbet will be around 80-100 chips.
If I make the C bet and get a caller, I shut down on the turn. ANd just like like that im down 1/8 of my stack.

With a limp
IM usllay only playing an A high flop or K high flop and I rely on my post flop prowess =D to keep me safe.

And yes.
Empire Strikes Back.
Away put ur weapon, I mean you no harm.

[gabe]

i like how you played it

[zenbitz]

I find your lack of faith (in pre-flop raises) disturbing.
I don't CB ANY flop into more than 1 caller this early.

Also, it depends on the table (i.e. tourney) some of these PP $22s are quite tight, and you can isolate with 3x.