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  1. #1

    Default QQ hand ($10 SnG)

    Seat 2: kroniak420 ($2,505 in chips)
    Seat 3: dyskinesia ($2,430 in chips)
    Seat 4: im nogenius [QH,QC] ($1,370 in chips)
    Seat 5: xoneal201x ($2,640 in chips)
    Seat 7: linnea1980 ($1,575 in chips)
    Seat 8: JF x ($2,415 in chips)
    Seat 10: baxterzeus ($2,065 in chips)
    ANTES/BLINDS
    dyskinesia posts blind ($25), im nogenius posts blind ($50).

    PRE-FLOP
    xoneal201x bets $100, linnea1980 folds, JF x folds, baxterzeus calls $100, kroniak420 folds, dyskinesia folds, im nogenius bets $150, xoneal201x calls $50, baxterzeus calls $50.

    FLOP [board cards KD,2D,10C ]
    im nogenius ???

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    The re-raise preflop was a mistake, I had intended to re-raise more, but ended up only raising 50.

    On the flop, with about 500 in the pot, do you usually probe bet here?

    I didn't have any strong reads other than the players in the pot weren't donks, they seemed fairly solid.
  2. #2
    Not an easy flop to play OOP vs 2 bigger limpers.

    You don''t really have the chips to get a bet called. I might just push here. If they have a mid king, you're probably sunk. If they have a draw or think you are bluffing you will happily take a call (well QJd would suck).

    If they are solid players, and you haven't made this move before - I think you get away with it. KQ is unlikely with you holding 2 Qs. AK probably raises. Really KJ KT 22 are the only hands that are reasonable and ahead of you . TT probably re-raises pre-flop.
  3. #3
    Bet 1/2 - 2/3 of pot and if you get reraised you are done with the hand.
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    ^ What he said.
  5. #5
    Why didn't you raise more preflop?

    Just kidding... I read the post.

    Unfortunately, I think that little error may cost you the pot.. I think I make a C-bet here of about half the pot, and then check/fold to any resistance.

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    What I don't like about the c-bet is the draws call you, and you are done. Also, a c-bet on a super draw heavy board has to be pot sized.... which pretty much commits you, so you may as well push.

    Or just check, hope it checks around and bet a non diamond non ace turn.
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    He has 1220 chips left, and you want him to push QQ into a K102 board with 2 limpers and a pot of only 500?

    I either continuation bet 1/2-2/3 the pot, or just check/fold. Actually, considering the board has 2 diamonds, I think just check/fold. I think if you c-bet and get called, you still won't know where you stand. You could be up against either a K, 10, JQ, 2 diamonds, or many other hands, and this will make the turn and river decisions very costly if you're wrong.
  8. #8
    I think you have to push or check. fold to any real bet, raise one of those stupid weak min bets.

    I guess if opps were really weak/tight you could bet like 100.
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    You were definately good pre-flop. With an UTG raise and a cold call you're probably up against AK and a PP or 2 PPs maybe JJ raised and AQ called if you're lucky.... but you're probably beat. I'd make a blocking/defensive bet of 100-125. any more than 1/4 pot is too much to lose with that flop and 2 callers. Not many $10 + 1 players will raise you here with JJ or 99, and if they do, no big deal, you don't have to win every pot. If I got called I wouldn't bet again unless another K came on the turn. Someone suggested All-in or check..... check: not bad.... All-in: way too Reckless!!! yes you might push out a weak king but I'd rather make this play with QJ diamonds than QQ. When you bluff you have to ask yourself "what are my chances of winning this hand IF I GET CALLED?" if you get called here you'll probably need to spike a Queen.

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