Pokerstars $16: JJ Early in the SB

[daluchy]

I too suffer from vqcitis and need alot of work post-flop.

POKERSTARS GAME #3328050626: TOURNAMENT #16483065, HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL II (15/30) - 2005/12/13 - 23:21:33 (ET)
Table '16483065 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: swaavay (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: blindmanbluf (1550 in chips)
Seat 3: Mustang_5.o (1710 in chips)
Seat 4: superfly7515 (1760 in chips)
Seat 5: onecoolcue (1300 in chips)
Seat 6: Squirtsmom (1370 in chips)
Seat 7: fooftychoo (1340 in chips)
Seat 8: Artsz71 (1405 in chips)
Seat 9: daluchy (1605 in chips)
daluchy: posts small blind 15
swaavay: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to daluchy [Jd Js]
blindmanbluf: folds
Mustang_5.o: calls 30
superfly7515: folds
onecoolcue: folds
Squirtsmom: folds
fooftychoo: folds
Artsz71: calls 30
daluchy: calls 15
swaavay: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d 7d 4c]
daluchy: bets 90
swaavay: folds
Mustang_5.o: folds
Artsz71: calls 90
*** TURN *** [9d 7d 4c] [Qs]
daluchy: checks
Artsz71: bets 90
daluchy: calls 90
*** RIVER *** [9d 7d 4c Qs] [4s]
daluchy: bets 150
Artsz71: calls 150

I'm playing JJ only for trips and overpair value this early in a SnG. On the turn I removed the idea he's on a draw since he bet. He maybe have hit the flop only, but just incase the queen helped him I check/called. Then I blocking bet the river for hopefully a cheap showdown.

Sound good?

[vqc]

meh

Lead turn
Check call river.

[vqc]

I too suffer from vqcitis and need alot of work post-flop.

I hate u guys. =)

[aislephive]

I think you played it very well by representing a 4 at the end and getting a cheap showdown. He probably had top pair off the flop or something and you took it down, correct?

[gabe]

preflop and flop are good.

i think in most cases they call the flop because they are drawing or have a pair. this could be something like KQd but thats only one hand in his range and i think you are still ahead and should bet out and not give a free card.

no draw got their on the river, so i think you should check intending on calling any bet. the only hand you get value from on the river is something like A9 or TT, but you should be able to get some value from missed draws trying to salvage the pot.

[gabe]

I think you played it very well by representing a 4 at the end and getting a cheap showdown. He probably had top pair off the flop or something and you took it down, correct?

if he did a good job of representing the 4, he would only get to a showdown against someone that beats him. this is not a representation of a 4, but more like a blocking bet.

[vqc]

preflop and flop are good.

i think in most cases they call the flop because they are drawing or have a pair. this could be something like KQd but thats only one hand in his range and i think you are still ahead and should get more chips in while ur hand is the best hand

no draw got their on the river, so i think you should check intending on calling any bet. the only hand you get value from on the river is something like A9 or TT, but you should be able to get some value from missed draws trying to salvage the pot.

[gabe]

well you cant be sure its best, but you bet to protect it. if you are raised you can usually fold pretty easily unless the person has shown they can get out of line.

[daluchy]

Hmm ok that's where post-flop fortitude was lacking. I didn't know what to do if I bet and got raised on the turn, so I guess the turn check/call is too passive?

And I'll have to try ur line on the river Gabe. I never thought about it that way. I probably cost myself chips there. I see a scare card and I get too freaked sometimes.