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    Default Coin flips in middle of a MTT

    Last night in the 7.5k bodog I had a situation come up which has got me a lot recently and wanted to get some takes on it.

    I am a very very tight player and it is not untypical for me to go 45 minutes at a time without playing a hand. When i do push I hope that my tight image counts for something, but I dont think a lot of people even notice table image.

    Last night the blinds were at 150/300. The average stack was about 5500. i was sitting in seat 7 with with AKo at about 4800.

    Utg+1 was sitting on about 3800 in chips. He mini-raises to 600. From his past play I put him on a range of (AK-AQ to 77-JJ).

    I do not want to call the 600 because that will get me down to 4800. After his bet he is at 3200 so he does have some fold equity.

    Now this is where I have problems. I am about 40% sure he has AK, probably AQ and about 60% he has a mid pair.

    I am thinking he does not want to risk all his chips going heads up with me because I know my image is as tight as can be.

    What should i do here,
    A)save my chips for a better time?
    B) call and see a flop? but what if dont hit the flop then i have no idea where i am.
    C)Push all in, hope he folds and if not the worst I am is a coin flip. But do I want to take a coin flip at this time?

    When is the propert time to make an all in push with a coinflip likely?

    what would you do?

    I pushed, he thought for a moment then called, flipped over 99 which held up and shortly after I was out when my 77 could not hold off an A8
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    I would reraise but not push. If he reraises back I might call or let it go. Could mean big pp QQ+. If he smooth calls then I put him on small pp or AQ+. If I don't hit on the flop I might take a stab since I was the aggressor. I wouldn't go too far with AK. Normally, in my encounters, a mini raise is usually a small pp. UTG it could mean several hands. I would want to see how he plays back at me on the flop and if it gets to the turn and river.
  3. #3
    OK, so make it like 2k to go and see what he does?
  4. #4
    Mix it up. 20% of the time push, 40% reraise to 1600+, 40% call and see the flop.
    If the table has had time to peg you as a very tight rock then it would seem that calling and seeing the flop might be a better option, as you have position on him.
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  5. #5
    Well you are committing a lot of your stack. If you don't hit you will be in push/fold mode after it. How many people were left? Were you ITM at the time? It will be interesting to hear what others say.
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    There were about 140 left, 64 i think made the money. I was thinkng accumlate at that part of the tournament
  7. #7
    I never like to overplay AK in tourny or ring for that matter.
    In tourny I will almost never be AI pre-flop with AK unless:
    1. I'm short stacked or
    2. I have a great read on the situation or
    3. I'm very big stacked.

    I will call any normal raise and take a flop to see what happens.

    The problem with getting it AI with AK is that the majority of the time you are facing a lower pair and praying to hit that A or K or worst case you are facing AA or KK.

    If you call and take the flop and hit, you are in great shape because someone might overplay that baby pair or you can win a big pot from someone who overplays something like Ax.
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    You have enough to pump in a 5bbs reraise here imo. That leaves you at 10/11bbs. That is push fold mode but i guess here you have a decision. Either raise and commit to a flop push anyway, with decent fold equity or fold it because its a messy situation. I go for number 1 because im aggressive and dont mind busting on what imo is a +ev play, repping a big pair.
    If i was slightly shorter i would push this regardless, but here its reraise/push flop or fold imo.
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    I like the re-raise less than all-in here because I don't like the min-raise. I want to know if he's trapping me with QQ+ pre-flop.

    Depends on the frequency and "strength" of villians minraises, though. Has he minraised or limped AA/KK before? Has he made mostly 3x raises, then dropped down to 2x? Does he ALWAYS minraise?

    Also there are still a couple players left to act... I don't really want to play AK 4 way, another reason to raise.

    If he's minraising mid pockets, then you aren't going to make anything on a A-high flop.
    I can see a call if you think he's minraising with AT/AJ/AX
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    thats a tight range you give him. if it was looser (like it probably is) i push, but with that range i call.

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