Pct 10s, flop:2,3,4

[Alameda]

PokerStars Game #3377955019: Tournament #16742796, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/12/19 - 15:26:08 (ET)
Table '16742796 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: jdspike (1330 in chips)
Seat 2: natediesel51 (1290 in chips)
Seat 3: Alameda22 (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: oliver1020 (2105 in chips)
Seat 5: 3,1415 (3010 in chips)
Seat 6: Teeny13 (1910 in chips)
Seat 7: RMagnus (1180 in chips)
Seat 9: james313 (1205 in chips)
james313: posts small blind 10
jdspike: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Alameda22 [Ts Th]
natediesel51: raises 20 to 40
Alameda22: raises 60 to 100
oliver1020: folds
3,1415: folds
Teeny13: folds
RMagnus: folds
james313: calls 90
jdspike: folds
natediesel51: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [3c 2c 4d]
james313: bets 1105 and is all-in
natediesel51: folds
Alameda???

Looks like another flush draw, can i call here?

Alameda22: calls 1105
*** TURN *** [3c 2c 4d] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [3c 2c 4d 8c] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
james313: shows [Ad Jh] (a pair of Jacks)
Alameda22: shows [Ts Th] (a pair of Tens)
james313 collected 2530 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2530 | Rake 0
Board [3c 2c 4d 8c Js]
Seat 1: jdspike (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: natediesel51 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Alameda22 showed [Ts Th] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: oliver1020 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 3,1415 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Teeny13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: RMagnus (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: james313 (small blind) showed [Ad Jh] and won (2530) with a pair of Jacks

[Blinky]

Any reads?

I was thinking overpair, but flush draw seems reasonable too. Judging by the size of the bet, opp doesn't want a call.

Unless SB is a tard, JJ is the only hand that worries me (QQ KK AA would likely reraise preflop). If he's hit on his pocket 22, 33, 44 (possible, but not usually played this way), 56 (SB=tard) or A5 (SB=tard) I guess I'm paying it off.

I call.

[baudib]

I see this move a lot by people with random aces, or especially AK on a 2-3-4 flop. Just yesterday I check-raised someone all-in when I had 33 on a 2-3-4 flop, and he called with AK and someone else called with A10. And they hit the 5, of course.

[zenbitz]

nh
gg

[Alameda]

I know this is gonna bite me in the ass if I continue, but it seems every time someone overbets the pot like this, (out of the 2 that I have called) they have been on a drawing hand... I think ill keep calling when i feel im good, atleast until im punished for it

[Aces]

I agree that bet is almost never trips/straight/2pr. He does have 10 outs(38% to hit) , and could easily have more if he had a flush draw of some type with 1 or 2 overs. could also be a PP 55-99 and you're dominating(except for 55). This early I might be tempted to let it go.

[KY_Ace]

I call, he could have 55,66,77,88,99. I see this move alot with AK and AQ, overcards + wheel draw. I saw Herrington do this late in a WSOP main event(I think it was 2005). I agree with Blinky, AA,KK,QQ would usually reraise. I'd only be worried about JJ here. It's not too likely but a set might move in here too not wanting to give an Ace-X hand a cheap card, but I think the set would normally check raise.

This pot already had 320 in it pre-flop so I think most of us would call, what would you guys do if natediesel51 just called 20 and you raise to 60 with TT and the SB calls and there's only 200 in the pot pre-flop and the SB pushes 1145 AI on the same flop?

I wish I could get this much feedback on my TT hand:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=25546