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  1. #1

    Default good fold?

    read on kfro is maniac who calls with a4o UTG. being squeezed between krfo and ninetwos prevented me from calling.. I would have folded the check raise all in anyway.

    PokerStars Game #3401572693: Tournament #16685802, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2005/12/22 - 00:46:30 (ET)
    Table '16685802 22' Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 2: Stoneface11 (1165 in chips)
    Seat 3: mpc2323 (4420 in chips)
    Seat 4: NotAgain42 (1715 in chips)
    Seat 5: nines&twos (7333 in chips)
    Seat 6: WeyNot (3582 in chips)
    Seat 7: sem25 (5961 in chips)
    Seat 8: jms38 (2020 in chips)
    Seat 9: kfro (4194 in chips)
    NotAgain42: posts small blind 75
    nines&twos: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mpc2323 [Ad Ks]
    WeyNot: folds
    sem25: folds
    jms38: folds
    kfro: calls 150
    Stoneface11: folds
    mpc2323: raises 300 to 450
    NotAgain42: folds
    nines&twos: calls 300
    kfro: calls 300
    *** FLOP *** [Qs 4h 9s]
    nines&twos: checks
    kfro: bets 600
    k2dirtrider is connected
    mpc2323: folds
    nines&twos: raises 6283 to 6883 and is all-in
    kfro: calls 3144 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [Qs 4h 9s] [Ac]
    *** RIVER *** [Qs 4h 9s Ac] [Tc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    nines&twos: shows [Kc Qh] (a pair of Queens)
    kfro: shows [8s As] (a pair of Aces)
    kfro collected 8913 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 8913 | Rake 0
    Board [Qs 4h 9s Ac Tc]
    Seat 2: Stoneface11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: mpc2323 (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: NotAgain42 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: nines&twos (big blind) showed [Kc Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
    Seat 6: WeyNot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: sem25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: jms38 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: kfro showed [8s As] and won (8913) with a pair of Aces
  2. #2
    Clearly it's a good fold, for the reason you stated. Also, just because kfro is a maniac doesn't mean he doesn't have a queen.

    You should raise more preflop though. Force him to make a bigger mistake.
  3. #3
    Not knowing what they have makes this a good fold. You didn't know that the A was coming. With your knowledge of how they play, you could put them on a multitude of hands. When you play very loose to maniac type of players you need to wait for a big hand. You had it here, but you didn't hit the flop so you can't gamble and hope to catch that A. Don't force anything against bad players. These guys will be losers in the long run.
  4. #4

    Default ye

    yeah good fold

    AK is just 2 big cards

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