Call/Fold?

[nickthefool]

2nd hand, $15 SnG, 1 player goes all in from mid position, folded round to you on button with QQ.

[MAX]

I probably call. AA/KK push into a tiny pot seems unlikely. People do this with mid and small pockets, and you can never rule out the lv1 kamakazis who think J8s is a license to print money!

Lastnight I had JJ and got ai preflop on the 1st hand. It was a live game and I could tell this guy was full of it. It went him - raise 5bb, me - reraise, him reraise, me - ai, him call..............He turns over 56s!!!!! (Of course I lost the hand)

[KY_Ace]

This seems like a goofy play from a loose aggressive player trying to get lucky and double up on the first hand and play big stack poker.

Only a retard would play AA or KK this way, he's got a smaller pair, AK,AQ,AJ or KQ. This guy wants to gamble. Even if you lose, at least you didn't waste any time on this one. I'd rather come 10th AI with the best hand, than play for 40 minutes and come 4th.

This reminds me of my freeroll strategy, go AI with any 2 big cards 'til I have 10,000 in chips then play normal. If I lose who cares.

[LeFou]

call, for same reasons as above.

[LeFou]

oh, i should add that if it were a live tourney i might fold, just because i probably spent some time getting to the tourney, etc. and i want to play a lot more hands.

However, if it were a live tourney for a substantial amount of money, it flips back over to call.

[thnwkd]

back when i was learning to play, i would pull this move with rockets early in a tourny and someone would always call using the same logic posted above. But that was at the 5s and i haven't played stars in a while, so i don't know what the general level of play is at the 15s.

Early in a turbo tourny, i'm in a EP/MP holding AA and i know that:

1. these tournies are loose and i will likely get a call because players want to gambool

or

2. The players at this level are average/solid and will put me on a medium to low pair and will call with pk 10+, AK

Am i still a 'Retard' for making this play?

Given 1. or 2. above i think that this may be a good play and will probably net me more that if i played it standard.
think outside of the box people.

That being said, I call. This guy is more likely a donk.

[nickthefool]

Nice to know that everyone else would have gone out in 9th place too when he flipped over AA Still, it was the start of a good day for me (so far up ~4.5 buyins from 6 SnGs) so i'm not really annoyed that i lost.

[KY_Ace]

Without an Ace or King on the flop he could've accoumplished the same thing by raising big pre-flop and pushing on the flop. I've actually lost to AA once in a similar situation, but I've also doubled up early many times in this situation too.

I appoligize if the "only a retard generalization offended anyone", there's a time and a place for every play. If the buy-in is low and the game is so crazy that pushing in your whole stack is the only way to narrow the field then do it and hope someone else has a big hand or wants to "Gambool". If they all fold you can muck and say something goofy like, "OMG you guys suck, I had 37 sooted!!", and hope you get 'em again.

[zenbitz]

Making this play with AA/KK in a "unknowwn" $15 tourney is probably -$EV.

Making this play in a FTR tourney is brilliant...