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Do you push this?

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  1. 12-25-2005 04:20 PM #1
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    Default Do you push this?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    BB (t2535)
    UTG (t1095)
    MP1 (t1615)
    MP2 (t420)
    Hero (t680)
    Button (t550)
    SB (t1105)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 8.
    5 folds, BB calls t580.

    Flop: (t730) A, 8, 6 (2 players)

    Turn: (t730) 3 (2 players)

    River: (t730) 7 (2 players)

    Final Pot: t730

    Strip
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  2. 12-25-2005 06:36 PM #2
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    You don't want a call, because most hands that call you here have you in somewhat rough shape. The best you can hope for if he calls is a PP <= 77. If you think he'll put you on pushing any two in this spot (ie. you've pulled this before) and he's a competent tournie player or just loose-ish with his calling requirements, then I don't really like the push. If you haven't been in any pots or he's tight/weak, then the push is better.
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  3. 12-25-2005 07:10 PM #3
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    yep. pretty standard, no?
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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  4. 12-25-2005 09:07 PM #4
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    i think this is a fold more often than not unless u kno that everyone left is pretty tight.
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  5. 12-25-2005 09:47 PM #5
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    Really? Seems too good an opportunity here.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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  6. 12-26-2005 02:11 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib
    Really? Seems too good an opportunity here.
    explain to me why it seems like a good opportunity
    include
    opponents calling ranges
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  7. 12-26-2005 06:33 AM #7
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    He called with A2, but it was my first push, so they should respected it just a little...I was a slight underdog 48%/52%...
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  8. 12-26-2005 06:54 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib
    Really? Seems too good an opportunity here.
    explain to me why it seems like a good opportunity
    include
    opponents calling ranges
    As soon as I get my new code for SNG Power Tools i'll run the ICM calcs...including calling ranges....but regardless.....folded to on the CO with <6BB with a mid-suited-connector....when would this not be a push?
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  9. 12-26-2005 08:59 AM #9
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    Easy push, the only hands that have you in bad shape are AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT,99. A9 & A8 are only 2-1 favorites. Against all other hands you'll win 39%-53% of the time When the blinds are this big you have to steal to stay alive, especially from the CO.


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  10. 12-26-2005 02:38 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by lambchopdc
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib
    Really? Seems too good an opportunity here.
    explain to me why it seems like a good opportunity
    include
    opponents calling ranges
    As soon as I get my new code for SNG Power Tools i'll run the ICM calcs...including calling ranges....but regardless.....folded to on the CO with <6BB with a mid-suited-connector....when would this not be a push?
    im hopin i didnt make too big of a mistake when doing calling ranges
    but
    it required the 2 blinds to be at around 10% for it to be a + push and not even a 0.5% push.
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  11. 12-26-2005 02:42 PM #11
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    i do admit however that the SB abd BB will often be tighter than 10% (thnx gabe for pointing this out from before)

    so this probably is a push, but a discussion on calling ranges definitely wouldnt hurt my game.
    so if u please lamb, run the numbers too.
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