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  1. #1

    Default JJ level 2 109... confused

    ***** Hand History for Game 3270178080 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:18649279 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, December 27, 16:42:55 EDT 2005
    Table Table 68251 (Real Money)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 1: heffthecow ( $690 )
    Seat 2: Barrinalo ( $685 )
    Seat 3: GTLV77 ( $900 )
    Seat 4: virgilcane ( $855 )
    Seat 5: plourw ( $1060 )
    Seat 6: liquorman ( $975 )
    Seat 7: ccclong009 ( $955 )
    Seat 9: critt1 ( $1695 )
    Seat 10: ilikeaces86x ( $2185 )
    Trny:18649279 Level:2
    Blinds(15/30)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to ilikeaces86x [ Jd Js ]
    ccclong009 folds.
    critt1 folds.
    >You have options at Table 67301 Table!.
    >You have options at Table 68289 Table!.
    ilikeaces86x calls [30].
    >You have options at Table 68796 Table!.
    heffthecow raises [60].
    Barrinalo folds.
    >You have options at Table 66710 Table!.
    >You have options at Table 68289 Table!.
    GTLV77 calls [60].
    >You have options at Table 68796 Table!.
    virgilcane raises [350].
    >You have options at Table 67301 Table!.
    >You have options at Table 68289 Table!.
    >You have options at Table 67301 Table!.
    plourw folds.
    liquorman folds.
    ilikeaces86x folds.
  2. #2
    Looks pretty standard to me with silly tourney ICM math and no read given. Also, heffthecow is still to act and could do pretty much anything.
  3. #3
    I don't play this high a level. I only play 1os and 20s with an occasional 3o but I'd fold this early with that action. You're in the middle and it looks like you are going to have to put in all your chips preflop against at least 1 if not 3. Doesn't look good.
    Cpaz

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  4. #4
    Sure looks like a squeeze play, which is probably what you're getting at. But I just can't bring myself to put an unknown on it.
  5. #5
    bleh I hate this hand but I just cant know a unkown donkeys range there.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeaces86
    bleh I hate this hand but I just cant know a unkown donkeys range there.
    ...and the SnG structure compells you to maximise your chance to win a prize.
  7. #7
    Well it's either all in or fold and I hate going all in that early with anything less than QQ, (and I try to avoid it with QQ unless I'm pretty sure I have the other guy dominated).

    But yeah, I play JJ the same way this early. Of course, I don't play nearly that high and I'm not sure how many moves are being made.
  8. #8
    This actually helped me a lot...

    FTR:
    3. What's the biggest mistake aware players make post-flop in big bet games (NLHE/PLHE)?

    Greg Raymer:
    Relying upon hope. You call because you hope the guy is bluffing, even though there is no specific evidence that he is doing so. This goes along with not reading the opponents very well. If you can't read them, you have to guess, to some degree, and once you are guessing and hoping, you tend to make loose calls. At least, many of us do this.
  9. #9
    Raised and reraised. Original raiser left to act. Looks like a standard fold to me.
  10. #10
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    HU JJ is hard to fold, but the multi-way dynamic makes it an easy fold. Even Steve Danneman knew to lay down the JJ when Matusow had KK and the other guy( I think it was Lazar ) had AA in the 2005 WSOP main event, and Steve Danneman is only the 4th best player in his home game!!
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