what's your play here?

[jdubs]

Joey is pretty loose....

Seat 1: huckel berry ($4,768 in chips)
Seat 2: trouble41600 ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: palmreader31 ($8,470 in chips)
Seat 4: JoeyDaWop ($13,335 in chips)
Seat 5: MetomUtom ($8,870 in chips)
Seat 6: GwCoop ($75 in chips)
Seat 7: duffinvestor ($16,530 in chips)
Seat 8: jdubster [7H,8H] ($6,746 in chips)
Seat 9: 1tootie ($1,990 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
1tootie posts blind ($150), huckel berry posts blind ($300).

PRE-FLOP
trouble41600 folds, palmreader31 folds, JoeyDaWop calls $300, MetomUtom folds, GwCoop folds, duffinvestor folds, jdubster calls $300, 1tootie folds, huckel berry checks.

FLOP [board cards 9H,7C,10C ]
huckel berry checks, JoeyDaWop bets $800, jdubster bets $1,600, huckel berry calls $1,600, JoeyDaWop bets $12,235 and is all-in, jdubster ??

[Hop_Gazza]

Huckelberry has half his chips in already so you can guess that he will also go all in. With two clubs out Joey could be pushing for a flush draw, with only a mid pair so far.

If only two players left you have 8 outs for a straight and 2 for trips. If he is drawing for the flush he has 9 outs plus 2 for trips.

Also a flat call by huckel is worrying based on his stack size and initial check, he definitely has something and wants action.

Against one I think you are slightly down, against two players you are probably beat.

[edited for not being able to count!]

[jdubs]

Huckelberry has half his chips in already so you can guess that he will also go all in. With two clubs out Joey could be pushing for a flush draw, with only a mid pair so far.

If only two players left you have 8 outs for a straight and 3 for trips. If he is drawing for the flush he has 9 outs plus 3 for trips.

Also a flat call by huckel is worrying based on his stack size and initial check, he definitely has something and wants action.

Against one I think you are slightly down, against two players you are probably beat.

i think i have 12 outs here to improve : 8 for the str8, 2 for trips, 2 for 2 P, right?

[Hop_Gazza]

Sorry your right about the trips my error.

[drmcboy]

eek. Your outs count assumes no other draws are in, which doesn't make a lot of sense. Non club J or 6 probably good (although KQs loves that flop), 7 likely good. Two pair almost certainly not good.

I would have either made a bigger move on the flop so coming back you know what you're doing, or just get out. Once you have made the cute min raise (why???) you have to go with this, but I hate it. You're likely in with the worst hand and not the best draw.

[bair]

dont count the outs for 2 pair, puts 4 to a straight on the board. and if its a club it puts 3 to a flush on the board, with a straight flush possibility. all that aside you are definitely beat and dont have the best draw either, and you probably shouldn't have minraised. go big or go home :O

[jdubs]

thanks guys.. I will add again this guy was pretty loose. In retrospect, i dont like the min raise either. And I did blow it on the out counting there- the ones I was counting werent all clean I realize...and was counting the J and 6 of clubs.... as it turned out I was a slight favorite after the flop.