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  1. #1

    Default 77 FT of a 180 on stars

    Table's tight, and I haven't been real aggro......

    PokerStars Game #3538029040: Tournament #17545342, Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (800/1600) - 2006/01/05 - 01:43:15 (ET)
    Table '17545342 7' Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: NickZack (71966 in chips)
    Seat 2: ironmo (55378 in chips)
    Seat 3: wizdom (54228 in chips)
    Seat 4: badandy519 (33200 in chips)
    Seat 6: Fat_Pigs (20942 in chips)
    Seat 7: King Ledley (34286 in chips)
    NickZack: posts the ante 75
    ironmo: posts the ante 75
    wizdom: posts the ante 75
    badandy519: posts the ante 75
    Fat_Pigs: posts the ante 75
    King Ledley: posts the ante 75
    King Ledley: posts small blind 800
    NickZack: posts big blind 1600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to badandy519 [7s 7d]
    ironmo: folds
    wizdom: folds
    badandy519: raises 3200 to 4800
    Fat_Pigs: folds
    King Ledley: raises 6400 to 11200
    NickZack: folds
    badandy519: ??
  2. #2
    Based in the information you gave this seems like a pretty easy fold.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by WildBobAA
    Based in the information you gave this seems like a pretty easy fold.
    Agreed.
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  4. #4
    Push is bad for sure.

    I could see calling and pushing any flop with no A (os someting spooky like KQJ). You're getting 3/1 here and you may have the best hand.

    But mostly I think a fold is good with no read.

    Everyone is deep stacked enough that if you have had a limped pot or two I could see trying to see the flop cheap.
  5. #5
    I'd Fold... I think you are looking at a coinflip at best if you push this...
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    fold

    Just posting my play STOP N GO.

    PokerStars Game #3505508022: Tournament #17382851, Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2006/01/01 - 23:30:02 (ET)
    Table '17382851 16' Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: dasurfer (45534 in chips)
    Seat 2: umgopherz (63670 in chips)
    Seat 3: Elestian (32052 in chips)
    Seat 4: deuceunder (42307 in chips)
    Seat 6: KnockItStiff (11901 in chips)
    Seat 8: Muxxxy (16588 in chips)
    Seat 9: fs3142 (57948 in chips)
    dasurfer: posts the ante 100
    umgopherz: posts the ante 100
    Elestian: posts the ante 100
    deuceunder: posts the ante 100
    KnockItStiff: posts the ante 100
    Muxxxy: posts the ante 100
    fs3142: posts the ante 100
    KnockItStiff: posts small blind 1000
    Muxxxy: posts big blind 2000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Muxxxy [8s 8d]
    fs3142: raises 4000 to 6000
    dasurfer: folds
    umgopherz: folds
    Elestian: folds
    deuceunder: folds
    KnockItStiff: folds
    Muxxxy: calls 4000
    *** FLOP *** [Td 5s Js]
    Muxxxy: bets 10488 and is all-in
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    andy - fold to the reraise. Very few hands will do that, and stinks to high heaven of AA-QQ. You're 8-1 to hit your set and you're not getting nearly those odds - plus opp has you covered.

    muxy - what makes you so sure opp doesn't have a higher pocket pair? Sure you want to butt heads with the second biggest stack? Your move works everytime except the one that knocks you out...

    fs3142: nh, gg - (as the second biggest stack calls and flips over a set of Jacks)
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by konahead
    muxy - what makes you so sure opp doesn't have a higher pocket pair? Sure you want to butt heads with the second biggest stack? Your move works everytime except the one that knocks you out...
    Who cares if he might get knocked out, he has 7 big blinds. Getting knocked out 1 in 3 times and adding 50 percent to his stack 2 out of 3 times sounds like a good deal to me. Not to mention he sucks out 10 percent of the time he gets called by an overpair.

    Andy's hand is an easy fold.
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    if thats the case, why not just push preflop? at least he has some fold equity then...

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