Is he trying to steal the blinds, my call?

[johnnyBuz]

***** Hand History for Game 3317808309 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:18911818 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Thursday, January 05, 03:01:27 EDT 2006
Table Table 67022 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 7: yankc ( $1710 )
Seat 5: goatdaddy ( $800 )
Seat 8: johnnyBuz ( $865 )
Seat 9: Hooks_Wired ( $1270 )
Seat 1: Sentennial ( $3355 )
Trny:18911818 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to johnnyBuz [ Jd Qd ]
yankc folds.
>You have options at Table 67110 Table!.
johnnyBuz calls [100].
Hooks_Wired folds.
Sentennial raises [950].
goatdaddy folds.

[donkbee]

There's no way for us to know this without reads.

[WildBobAA]

You should be the one pushing here. Why are you limping off over 1/9 of your stack? You should be in push/fold mode.

[vqc]

push or fold preflop

ur donking off large portions of ur stack.

[johnnyBuz]

So either raise a hand like that preflop to steal blinds / isolate and fold to further aggression, or fold it outright?

[vqc]

So either raise a hand like that preflop to steal blinds / isolate and fold to further aggression, or fold it outright?

ur only play here for now
is to either go all in or fold preflop.

any good player is shafting u for shitloads of chips whevner u limp hands like these and then must contemplate folding.

[JeffreyGB]

As a side note, QJs isn't that good a hand UTG - especially when you're short stacked. This isn't push/fold to me (unless the table is tight). It's just fold.

[kingnat]

I agree with the above people that this is not a good play, but I want to hijack a bit and ask a question...

As a side note, QJs isn't that good a hand UTG - especially when you're short stacked. This isn't push/fold to me (unless the table is tight). It's just fold.

Why is this? Are you worried about likely holdings that call (such as AQ, or AJ) that dominate your hand? If this were 87s, would that be better?

The big stack is in the SB with 50 in the pot, and the other small stack in the BB and it's down to 5 handed. With coordinated holding like this (high suited connectors)... I would push.

This is probably setting myself up to get slaughtered, but could you explain why this is wrong.. and what range of hands you are looking to play in this situation.

Thanks man!

[Muxy]

I fold this. I agree with Jeffery

[kingnat]

I fold this. I agree with Jeffery

Thanks for the deep insight Muxy.... and wtf is up with the post whoring??

[Blinky]

Kingmat:

I personally hate most any QJ (soetimes I've folded it preflop otb when folded to me, which is probably a leak...). UTG makes it worse. QJ is simply queen-high. Sootedness doesn't make much difference.

Anyways when you're playing push/fold, you want an edge. The following are NOT edges:

1. Any QJ is owned by any other two broadways.
2. You are behind Ax and Kx.

Now if you open-push from UTG, what is likely to call you at this level? Pocket pairs and Ax (esp x >= 8), maybe a looser call with something like KQ. In best case you're a slight dog (vs lower pp) and you have to go through the entire table.

You can find a better spot to push IMO.

Oh, and to answer about 87s - these cards are likely to be live but this isn't the right situation for an open-push with such a hand.

[konahead]

definitely push/fold mode with that stack and blind level. Is QJs good enough to push? That really depends on how tight the table is, and more importantly, how they view you. Aggro big stack in the sb - I fold here. Tight mid-stacks in the blinds and I have tight image? I push here. (QJs is an ok hand4 handed - there's already been a fold so it's the equivilant to a 4 handed table...)

Is opp just stealing? Can't say for sure, but looks like small to mid pocket pair (55-99) that doesn't want action. Either way, it's a fold.

[donkbee]

personally hate most any QJ (soetimes I've folded it preflop otb when folded to me, which is probably a leak...).

At full tables, I fold it all the time unless I'm on the CO or button. I hate limping it though, and unless it's late in the game and I have a feel for the table, I don't like raising it either. I hate QJ too!

[zenbitz]

He's not UTG, he's in the CO 5-handed short stacked. There are only 4 hands to beat. Ragged kings certainly fold. Ragged As probably call...

This is a clear push if big stack is very tight (folding all but AQ/TT+) or very loose (calls with any 2). Without reads... I would push this if I haven't stolen in a while.

As played... he's probably stealing from your weak ass limp, but you can't call.

I think a smaller raise (3BB) is almost as bad as a limp here. If you are called by the big stack (who can call you with any 2) you have to hit a Q/J or 8-9 outer to continue

QJ *is* behind AX and KX... but the difference here is the X. If you do hit the flop with either vs. only a 1 villain, you are more likely to be good than if you spike a 7 holding A7.