AKo first hand $15 SnG

[nickthefool]

Hand Start.
Seat 1 : sir chris has $2,000
Seat 2 : Queen Medbh has $2,000
Seat 3 : Mr Chips76 has $2,000
Seat 4 : shrewman has $2,000
Seat 5 : nickthefool has $2,000
Seat 6 : jackal47 has $2,000
Seat 7 : markygoods has $2,000
Seat 8 : futureman has $2,000
Seat 9 : trickyer has $2,000
sir chris is the dealer.
Queen Medbh posted small blind.
Mr Chips76 posted big blind.
Game [1] started with 9 players.
Dealing Hole Cards.
Seat 5 : nickthefool has Kd Ac
shrewman called 40
nickthefool called 40 and raised 160
jackal47 folded.
markygoods folded.
futureman folded.
trickyer folded.
sir chris folded.
Queen Medbh folded.
Mr Chips76 folded.
shrewman called 160
Dealing flop.
Board cards [4d 2h 8s]
shrewman checked.
nickthefool bet 200
shrewman called 200
Dealing turn.
Board cards [4d 2h 8s 9s]
shrewman checked.
nickthefool checked.
Dealing river.
Board cards [4d 2h 8s 9s 3s]
shrewman checked.
nickthefool checked.

Thoughts?

[zilch]

Well played

[Aces]

looks standard.

[Khabbi]

Standard. You're only other play here would be to take another stab on the turn but I don't like it in this situation:

Without an obvious straight/flush draw on the flop though, you are probably up against a pair of 8s or a smaller overpair (99-JJ) and with no other scare cards coming, you are probably beat.

[nickthefool]

Same tourney, a few hands later :

Hand Start.
Seat 1 : sir chris has $2,810
Seat 2 : Queen Medbh has $1,890
Seat 3 : Mr Chips76 has $2,520
Seat 4 : shrewman has $940
Seat 5 : nickthefool has $2,340
Seat 6 : jackal47 has $850
Seat 7 : markygoods has $3,780
Seat 8 : futureman has $1,380
Seat 9 : trickyer has $1,490
Mr Chips76 is the dealer.
shrewman posted small blind.
nickthefool posted big blind.
Game [12] started with 9 players.
Dealing Hole Cards.
Seat 5 : nickthefool has Kd Ac
jackal47 folded.
markygoods folded.
futureman folded.
trickyer folded.
sir chris folded.
Queen Medbh folded.
Mr Chips76 called 60 and raised 60
shrewman folded.
nickthefool called 60 and raised 120
Mr Chips76 called 120
Dealing flop.
Board cards [As Jd Qh]
nickthefool bet 240
Mr Chips76 called 240
Dealing turn.
Board cards [As Jd Qh 9c]
nickthefool checked.
Mr Chips76 bet 240
nickthefool called 240
Dealing river.
Board cards [As Jd Qh 9c 8c]
nickthefool bet 240

This was horrible, i didnt really know what to do once the flop came. Thoughts on all streets plz

[Khabbi]

Though spot...

Pre-flop you need to get some definition, pump the raise up to 200-250.

On the flop you pretty much need to c-bet 3/4 the pot on that flop or just check/fold (I can't see this option being viable though).

Re-evaluate on the Turn, I'm checking like you, but folding to a bet. It reaks of value bet on a set to me. I think you're up against QQ or JJ here.

[Rondavu]

I like the river bet. It gains cheap enough showdown.

[konahead]

On hand 1 - well played. I don't think I'd fire another barrel on the turn either - you have enough invested already. But by river, I'd put opp on AK, AQ, AJ, etc. I think you split this or maybe you win at showdown.


Hand 2 - If you're going to reraise preflop, bump it up to 200 - don't minraise. Just builds the pot without giving you any info. Even if opp was just stealing (which he probably isn't at this blind level, but it is folded to him on the button, so he could be) he's still going to call a min-bet. I guess if he had a monster he would re-re-raise, but thats not at all certain since he knows he now has it heads-up.

Nice cont bet that gets called. I think I check-raise the turn to 500 rather than bet the river. That way you know better where you stand if he calls and it allows you to check the river - he'll be afraid of a check-raise if he doesn't have a T and he'll bet if he has a T - and you'll know you're probably beat.

Tough hand.

[nickthefool]

Ok - self analysis.

1st hand - raising 4xbb is standard for me at the moment on level 1. I didn't hit flop, but i don't think he did either. After he calls and checks turn i put him on either Ax or JJ, TT, and possibly 77, 66, 55 or 33 but unlikely. I get the feeling he will call a bet on the turn with any of these hands but will not fold unless to a very large bet and there is always the small possibility he has a monster. Same reasoning behind checking river. I expected him to have a PP that had missed flop, but he turned over AQ.

2nd hand - his minraise looks too much like a steal to me, so i reraise, making it 120 for him to call into a pot of 390, giving him better than 3:1. In hindsight should probably have raised it a little more, but oh well. So pot on flop is 510. I bet out ~1/2 pot to try and see where i stand. I think his call means he either has AT, or he thinks i have him beat but isn't sure and wants a cheap showdown. Turn i felt he was trying to buy the pot so called(probably shouldn't have), and river i lead out looking for a cheap(ish) showdown, folding to any raise. He folded the river, which confused me.

[GatorJH]

I think you played both of these hands fine.

The only other thing I MAY have done differently is in hand 2 to check raise on the turn if you really thougth he was stealing the pot. I know the board is a little scary, but at this point I think you are ahead. Would he have put in a min bet with J's or Q's pre-flop? Probably not and I am not sure he would have called your raise with K10 unless they were suited. If you check/raise the turn you will certainly know where you stand (at the expense of some chips though).

That is a tough hand for sure