Max set value

[samsonite2100]

Bodog 22. I've got about 800 chips here.

Dealer: samsonite2100 posts the small blind $15.00
Dealer: LargeT posts the big blind $30.00
Dealer: DEALING POCKETS
Dealer: Big_Slick071 folds
Dealer: FsuSlacker44 calls $30.00
Dealer: richiemac calls $30.00
Dealer: herbincowboy18 calls $30.00
Dealer: theshoe127 folds
Dealer: samsonite2100 calls $15.00
Dealer: LargeT checks
Dealer: DEALING FLOP ( 8d, As, Ks )
Dealer: samsonite2100 checks
Dealer: LargeT checks
Dealer: FsuSlacker44 checks
Dealer: richiemac checks
Dealer: herbincowboy18 checks
Dealer: DEALING TURN ( Qd )
Dealer: samsonite2100 bets $80.00
Dealer: LargeT folds
Dealer: FsuSlacker44 calls $80.00
Dealer: richiemac calls $80.00
Dealer: herbincowboy18 folds
Dealer: DEALING RIVER ( 6h )
Dealer: samsonite2100, it's your turn. You have 10 seconds to act
Dealer: samsonite2100, it's your turn. You have 5 seconds to act
Dealer: samsonite2100 bets $160.00
Dealer: FsuSlacker44 calls $160.00

Played correctly, or should I have pushed at the end?

[Staresy]

what are your hole cards?!? If you flopped a set here, you should bet that on the flop. Don't give free cards with a two-suited board and 5 to the flop.

Oh, and yes, I would push the river. Someone with a weak Ace might call you. The only hand you are genuinely concerned with, given the action, is JT.

[samsonite2100]

sorry--stupid Bodog HHs don't give hole cards. I had 88.

[zenbitz]

I think you can check hoping to c/r on that flop. Number of possible flushes is much reduced with A and K of suit out (WAAAAAy more people play AXs than QXs).

River is kinda hard to extract on OOP. Pot is preeety small for all but the biggest donks to call a push with AJ. Checking is probably too weak. Maybe bet even slightly less and try to get a raise. Plus there are 2 two people in, so value betting is even trickier. You get equal value from 2 calls of a 100 bet as 1 call from a 200 bet!

[mcatdog]

Remember that the point of a check-raise is to win one extra bet, by inducing your opponent to bluff when they have nothing. On this flop, winning one bet would be a huge disaster. I'm a lot more interested in taking the stack of someone who has an ace, and with that many people in the pot, someone's probably got one. Plus there might be a dipshit who wants to chase his flush. Pot the flop, pot the turn. Then the pot would actually be big enough that pushing the river would be reasonable.

Unfortunately, a pocket pair will fold if you bet this flop, even though they might call the turn and the river if it's checked around on the flop. That's a risk you're going to have to take.

I always laugh when I have AK with top-pair, top-kicker and someone with a set fails to take my stack because they were slow-playing. Obviously, I don't fold in that situation, but I'm pretty good at sniffing out when they're acting suspicious, and keeping the pot small.

[Aplomado]

With straight and flush draws on the flop, I gotta think letting four players see a card for free is a huge mistake.

[samsonite2100]

Yeah, I know I fudged that up. I think I thought people would at least minraise w/ an A and K on the board.

Also, I think I need to just start pushing the river in these situations. You get more folds that way, but I'm sure the EV is positive compared to value betting.

[Staresy]

It is not always about pushing the river. In this situation, you have so few chips left, relative to the size of the pot, that pushing is correct. Say, for example, you are sat on 3000 chips in this situation, I would make a nice value bet on the river here.

[TLR]

With 5 people seeing the flop I would have checkd the flop hoping for a bet and then reraise.
Given that everybody cehcks the flop I would bet the turn harder, probably pot sized, and I would call if reraised, and push the river if I am called, I am willing to risk my stack here and pay off slowplayed QQ, KK, AA or a luck JT

[mcatdog]

With 5 people seeing the flop I would have checkd the flop hoping for a bet and then reraise.

So you check, someone bets, you check-raise, broadcasting to the table that you have a monster hand and they fold their weak ace. That doesn't seem like a very good way to get paid off. I think you want to be a little bit trickier on a board like this.

[GatorJH]

So you check, someone bets, you check-raise, broadcasting to the table that you have a monster hand and they fold their weak ace. That doesn't seem like a very good way to get paid off. I think you want to be a little bit trickier on a board like this.

I have to agree here. If you check raise, any donk holding Ax lower than a 10 may or may not call, however any decent player will go through the following thought process - You didn't raise pre-flop so you most likely don't have AA or KK, you wouldn't check raise on a flush draw (which you could have in the SB) you would simply call and hope to hit the flush on the turn. Therefore your most likely holdings are AK or 88, both of which have me beat.

Why not put out some small bet, say $60. This would get anyone who has complete trash out of the hand, but may get a call from a weak A. The negative here is that if the weak A calls ahead of the flush draw, the draw is now getting 4 to 1 and would be correct in making the call. IF a spade hits the turn you would have a tough decision.

A better play may be a check/call. This would give the impression that you are the one on a flush draw and if a blank comes out on the turn you can delpoy Harrington's rope-a-dope strategy. However, if everyone checks behind you, you MUST bet on the turn with the Q that is out there. At that point I would stop trying to get cute and take the hand down with a pot sized bet. If anyone comes over the top I push.

[zenbitz]

I like betting out on the flop better than check/calling, because of schooling that Gator mentions. I would bet exactly 1/2 pot. It's the low end of a value bet with F/D on the board, but you are not repping anything except willingness to continue. Well, the pot is pretty small so you could go to 2/3rd (100) - but I think you will get many folds.

I wouldn't say check/raise (small raise) is better than leading out, but I think it's comparable.

Do you really think you are getting 3 bets out of A-rag on this board? What if the f/d hits? Anyone who is cognizant of their kicker with top pair probably isn''t PLAYING A-rag... and if they are, they probably assume you are NOT limping AQ. So, the only scare hands are AJ/AT - which are even reasonable holdings for villains.

This is not an easy board to get paid off on, unless someone has AK, or A-rag and pairs their kicker. Your best hope is that someone makes the classic a/i f/d semibluff... which is profitable but high variance.