Early with QQ, A on flop

[bluey]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t1380)
MP1 (t1470)
MP2 (t1840)
MP3 (t1410)
Hero (t1470)
Button (t1070)
SB (t1270)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t2090)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 1 fold, MP2 calls t20, 1 fold, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, SB calls t110, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t100, MP2 calls t100.

Flop: (t500) 2, A, T (4 players)
SB bets t80, UTG+1 calls t80, MP2 folds, Hero ...

With a bet and a call before me I'm betting one of these guys called with an A. Do you lay it down even with better than 8 to 1 odds? Or do you raise and see if one of them really does have an A?

[baudib]

I fold.

[zenbitz]

If it was one villian, I can see raising - but not two. The odds of someone getting married to his A is just two high. I could see calling... because it's a donk sized bet, and deserves to get cracked by runner-runner hearts or KJ or something.

One reason I am scared of calling is that I don't have the Kh.

[nogenius]

Fold, you can be fairly certain either SB or UTG+1 has an A, meaning you are drawing to two lonely outs.

[nickthefool]

You're behind here. The odds are that you will hit a queen on the turn are 22.5:1. Do 8:1 odds look so good now? Even the odds you will hit a queen on turn or river are ~11:1. You only really want to call this if you can win a big pot with it, and in my opinion you need to hit a full house to do that, which is very unlikely. (i think roughly 1 in 40)

[donnybaker]

I lay this down. If you're not beat already, you will be.

[Aplomado]

Push. You could catch running cards to a royal straight flush.

[samsonite2100]

Not great odds on that, but think of how satisfying it would be...

[donkbee]

Push. You could catch running cards to a royal straight flush.

lol don't do that aplomado, some ppl here actually respect your advice

[WildBobAA]

Fold, these donkeys play weak A's to the death.

[bluey]

Push. You could catch running cards to a royal straight flush.

Thats exactly what I thought!

Hero raises to t1140, SB calls t1060, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (t2860) 5 (2 players)

River: (t2860) A (2 players)

Final Pot: t2860

Results in white below:
SB has Ac 4s (three of a kind, aces).
Hero has Qh Qd (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: SB wins t2860.

Unfortunately it didnt work out...

[donkbee]

[bluey]

Ah sorry that was a joke, now heres the real thing. I got caught up looking up pokerstars bonuses.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t1380)
MP1 (t1470)
MP2 (t1840)
MP3 (t1410)
Hero (t1470)
Button (t1070)
SB (t1270)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t2090)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 1 fold, MP2 calls t20, 1 fold, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, SB calls t110, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t100, MP2 calls t100.

Flop: (t500) 2, A, T (4 players)
SB bets t80, UTG+1 calls t80, MP2 folds, Hero calls t80.

Turn: (t740) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t740) A (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t740

Results in white below:
SB has Ac 4s (three of a kind, aces).
UTG+1 has Jh Kh (one pair, aces).
Hero has Qh Qd (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: SB wins t740.

I knew I should have folded, I put my mouse on the fold button immediately but talked myself into believing donk1 had no concept of pot odds and was bluffing to try and take it down, and donk2 was on a flush draw.

The very next hand I got AA raised 8BB both of them call again bet the flop hard get one caller and it goes down to a showdown and he shows KQs. On T52 rainbow flop.

[Aplomado]

Push. You could catch running cards to a royal straight flush.

Thats exactly what I thought!

Hero raises to t1140, SB calls t1060, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (t2860) 5 (2 players)

River: (t2860) A (2 players)

Final Pot: t2860

Results in white below:
SB has Ac 4s (three of a kind, aces).
Hero has Qh Qd (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: SB wins t2860.

Unfortunately it didnt work out...

Whatever. It always works for me.

[pgil]

Fold, these donkeys play weak A's to the death.

isnt that a good reason to call. if you do catch a miracle Q you will certainly be paid off by one, if not both. besides it is a pretty small bet. if you harringtonize it and allow for a small chance of a bluff, it looks like an easy call.

[Fnord]

So....tempted....to....peel...

[konahead]

someone almost definitely has an ace, so you're not getting the right odds to call, but you're last to act so you know what the turn card is costing you and the difference in odds is offset by the remote possibility that no one has an ace - so given your stack size and the bet size, I think you have to call, even if you have to fold on the turn.

Hopefully the turn is a Q, or a heart and you're drawing live on the river. (If you didnt have Q hearts, I would still call, but not feel as good about it.)

Just be prepared to fold if things heat up too much on the turn.....

anyway - i see it was checked down - nh.