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  1. 01-21-2006 09:16 PM #1
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    PokerStars Game #3713339473: Tournament #18439397, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/01/21 - 21:06:26 (ET)
    Table '18439397 1' Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Singultus (1330 in chips)
    Seat 2: contessa (1485 in chips)
    Seat 3: ironhustla (1120 in chips)
    Seat 4: ESU99 (1440 in chips)
    Seat 5: llyy (1810 in chips)
    Seat 6: badgolf (2110 in chips)
    Seat 7: the schemer (1405 in chips)
    Seat 8: salsa4ever (1590 in chips)
    Seat 9: janos007 (1210 in chips)
    janos007: posts small blind 15
    Singultus: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to salsa4ever [Ah Ad]
    contessa: folds
    ironhustla: folds
    ESU99: folds
    llyy: calls 30
    badgolf: raises 60 to 90
    the schemer: calls 90
    salsa4ever: raises 180 to 270
    janos007: folds
    Singultus: folds
    llyy: calls 240
    badgolf: folds
    the schemer: calls 180
    *** FLOP *** [Qs Qd 4s]
    llyy: bets 450

    Could he limp then call a raise reraise with KQ or less likely AQ? And proceeded to hit the miracle flop?

    or could it be KK, JJ or a flush draw?
    All in or fold?
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    Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever
    well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
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  2. 01-21-2006 09:21 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever
    PokerStars Game #3713339473: Tournament #18439397, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/01/21 - 21:06:26 (ET)
    Table '18439397 1' Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Singultus (1330 in chips)
    Seat 2: contessa (1485 in chips)
    Seat 3: ironhustla (1120 in chips)
    Seat 4: ESU99 (1440 in chips)
    Seat 5: llyy (1810 in chips)
    Seat 6: badgolf (2110 in chips)
    Seat 7: the schemer (1405 in chips)
    Seat 8: salsa4ever (1590 in chips)
    Seat 9: janos007 (1210 in chips)
    janos007: posts small blind 15
    Singultus: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to salsa4ever [Ah Ad]
    contessa: folds
    ironhustla: folds
    ESU99: folds
    llyy: calls 30
    badgolf: raises 60 to 90
    the schemer: calls 90
    salsa4ever: raises 180 to 270
    janos007: folds
    Singultus: folds
    llyy: calls 240
    badgolf: folds
    the schemer: calls 180
    *** FLOP *** [Qs Qd 4s]
    llyy: bets 450

    Could he limp then call a raise reraise with KQ or less likely AQ? And proceeded to hit the miracle flop?

    or could it be KK, JJ or a flush draw?
    All in or fold?
    i dont think i fold here.
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  3. 01-21-2006 09:27 PM #3
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    NO WAY I FOLD THIS ALL IN BABY.
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  4. 01-21-2006 09:33 PM #4
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    glad to say i went all in and lost to KQ
    Quote Originally Posted by bigred
    Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
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    well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
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  5. 01-21-2006 09:38 PM #5
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    sneaky play to lead out with a Q there... guess he figured you had a big PP to pay off with.
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  6. 01-21-2006 10:03 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Mac
    sneaky play to lead out with a Q there... guess he figured you had a big PP to pay off with.
    not really
    hes protecting against hte flush draw.
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  7. 01-21-2006 10:12 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Mac
    sneaky play to lead out with a Q there... guess he figured you had a big PP to pay off with.
    not really
    hes protecting against hte flush draw.
    ...or he's a moron who got a massive woody when he saw the flop.
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  8. 01-21-2006 10:27 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aplomado
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Mac
    sneaky play to lead out with a Q there... guess he figured you had a big PP to pay off with.
    not really
    hes protecting against hte flush draw.
    ...or he's a moron who got a massive woody when he saw the flop.
    well
    if i were villian
    and i Had his hand
    I bet this flop 99% of hte time.
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  9. 01-21-2006 10:45 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    well
    if i were villian
    and i Had his hand
    I bet this flop 99% of hte time.
    I probably would too, I'm just throwing the possibility out there.
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  10. 01-21-2006 11:35 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aplomado
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    well
    if i were villian
    and i Had his hand
    I bet this flop 99% of hte time.
    I probably would too, I'm just throwing the possibility out there.
    FINE...
    =D

    by the by
    is that elaine from sienfeld in ur ava?
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  11. 01-22-2006 01:40 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    FINE...
    =D

    by the by
    is that elaine from sienfeld in ur ava?
    Bingo. Nice huh?
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  12. 01-22-2006 02:04 AM #12
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    raise more preflop too

    the pot is ~250, so a potsize raise is to ~400.
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  13. 01-22-2006 05:25 AM #13
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    any reads on him ?


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  14. 01-22-2006 12:28 PM #14
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    I agree with Gabe, you should have raised a bit more. It was a lousy call on the villians part though, and he got lucky. I would never invest that much with KQ early in a SNG. IMHO.
    The race doesn't always go to the fastest or the strongest but it's a pretty good bet.
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  15. 01-23-2006 02:37 PM #15
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    Is calling this down horrible? Worst case scenario is that he has a f/d and MISSES and you don't stack him when he woulda called your flop raise a/i. Well, maybe it would be worse if his f/d HITS *and* he woulda folded to a raise preflop... but unlikely.

    You are beat here fairly often. If stacks were deeper, you could re-raise to find out if he was just playing a PP.

    It probably makes no difference since you are a/i on the turn. I just suspect that your folding equity here is very, very small. I am probably never folding AA unless the board comes running spades.

    People call re-raises with AQ all the time. Then when they don't hit they fold. So, they get stacked on AXX QXX (vs AA) and stack you on QQX (or AXX vs KK!)
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  16. 01-23-2006 03:57 PM #16
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    as per my general theme on all threads today, yes. its impossible to lose at this game unless some donkey fish makes a donkey fish play and beats your hand. stupid donkey fish.
    'If you think a weakness can be turned into a strength, I hate to tell you this, but that's another weakness. '
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  17. 01-23-2006 04:05 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aplomado
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    FINE...
    =D

    by the by
    is that elaine from sienfeld in ur ava?
    Bingo. Nice huh?
    Bow chika bow bow bow bow Bow chika bow bow bow bow. Bow chika bow bow bow... bow BOW da na na na POP.
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