Call, fold, push over here with AJo?

[taipan168]

Thoughts? This is a $5.50 SnG. Can you fold this? I'm getting 4.75 to 1 on my additional 300 chips but the mini-reraise often means opp is holding a monster and begging for me to push over or at least call.

POKERSTARS GAME #3717788256: TOURNAMENT #18460758, HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL V (75/150) - 2006/01/22 - 06:50:41 (ET)
Table '18460758 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: YATC (985 in chips)
Seat 2: roblowe24 (900 in chips)
Seat 4: Sanamarl (1685 in chips)
Seat 5: taipan168 (1550 in chips)
Seat 6: Rezn8r (995 in chips)
Seat 8: Don Gorgon (5315 in chips)
Seat 9: torrey5 (2070 in chips)
roblowe24: posts small blind 75
Sanamarl: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to taipan168 [Ad Jh]
taipan168: raises 300 to 450
Rezn8r: folds
Don Gorgon: folds
torrey5: raises 300 to 750
YATC: folds
roblowe24: folds
Sanamarl: folds
taipan168: ????

[nogenius]

This is definitely a open push/fold situation preflop.

As played, it really does depend on reads. But unfortunately, you're generally behind here.

[Rondavu]

You have to call and cry

[Sprayed]

You have to call and cry

I agree. Although maybe a push instead of a raise initially.

[konahead]

I think this is a push, fold, or stop-n-go situation, and I don't like a push with AJo cuz I don't think you have any fold equity with the pot so big. Calling is the worst possible option unless you're going to stop-n-go. You're OOP for the entire hand.

What are you really hoping for?
- an ace on the flop and opp has TT/JJ/QQ/KK, not AK/AQs?
- a jack on the flop and opp has AK/AQ, not a higher pocket pair or JJ?
- an A or J on the flop and opp has lower pocket pair (and didnt hit a set)?

You have no info except that opp REALLY likes his hand. Just getting a read postflop will be tough with the remaining stacks. The only feasible hand opp reraises with that you may like to see is TT if you can catch an A or J. Lots of ifs.....

I fold here, regardless of the pot odds. If you play it, you're really playing for your whole stack, cuz the pot'll be 1725 and you'll only have 800 left. Folding leaves you with 1100.

If you want to play for your whole stack, do a stop-n-go and just push any flop. But that's really roulette, not poker....

And I certainly disagree with a preflop push. AJo isn't all that great 7-handed. I would have limped here. I start 3xbb raising with it 5-handed (or if folded to 5 handed) , but you're UTG with 6 opps to go. (Maybe I'm a little tight....)

[GatorJH]

I think you are behind here as well, but disagree that you have to "call and cry". On the river maybe, but pre-flop why make a call against someone who, most likely, has you dominated. If villian had a lower pocket pair I would assume that his raise would have been higher than it was to get you out of the pot. Here, he wants you in the pot.

I also agree with Kona in that I would not have opened in this situation with AJo. Your M is just under 7, which is at the bottom of the Orange zone. Additionally, there are three people behind you with M's less than 5. Any one of them could have decided that they have a hand worth doubling up on and now you are in a race for 3/4 of your stack.

[Rondavu]

I think you are behind here as well, but disagree that you have to "call and cry". On the river maybe, but pre-flop why make a call against someone who, most likely, has you dominated.

You're getting the right price against everything but AA.

[GatorJH]

I think you are behind here as well, but disagree that you have to "call and cry". On the river maybe, but pre-flop why make a call against someone who, most likely, has you dominated.

You're getting the right price against everything but AA.

Are you sure? If he has AA then unless you flop a straight (or at least a draw to the straight) or a set you are pretty much dead. And I do believe that you don't have the right odds to play for a flopped set or straight.

Am I missing something?

[konahead]

You're really getting 2-1, because you'll be playing for your entire stack.

Don't just look at the current pot odds, look at the remaining stacks if you call....

[zenbitz]

You're really getting 2-1, because you'll be playing for your entire stack.

Don't just look at the current pot odds, look at the remaining stacks if you call....

reverse. implied. odds.

This hand should go in a text book for that.