Push over this? ($10 SnG)

[nogenius]

Seat 1: nycobra ($305 in chips)
Seat 2: HugeBoss ($1,040 in chips)
Seat 3: im nogenius [10C,10S] ($2,795 in chips)
Seat 4: deNilexxx ($3,540 in chips)
Seat 8: macbengt ($2,330 in chips)
Seat 10: Bamse.. ($4,990 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
im nogenius posts blind ($75), deNilexxx posts blind ($150).

PRE-FLOP
macbengt bets $500, Bamse.. folds, nycobra folds, HugeBoss folds, im nogenius ???

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macbengt was semi-tight, he had won a pot by hitting TPTK and getting paid off.

What would be your move here?

[Aplomado]

Since villain is tight, I'm not pushing over a hand that is at best a flip with that kind of stack. Out of position I would fold it.

[Sprayed]

I would fold unless you like to gambool. You have a healthy stack look for a better spot.

[TLR]

If he is tight fold for a raise in EP

[Gridlock]

Well if he pushes that kind of negate position so to say...

[TLR]

Well if he pushes that kind of negate position so to say...

Not really
pushing the hand from the button when everyone but the blinds folded is much 'safer' then pushing from EP when you have no info on other player's holding

[zenbitz]

Why did he raise so much, UTG? Not to get a call.

EDIT. My math sucks. How do I ever win? This is not even 4x. 3.33X. He probably has 33. I push here.

You cover him too... I guess this is a classic TT/JJ raise, trying to get AX folds...

EDIT: Ignore this - for some reason I thought the blind level was 50/100 and he raised 5x.

Tight player, makes larger-than-necessary raise.... I think pushing over him is better than a flip. because there is a good chance he lays it down. You could also call and push most flops.

Still, my fear here is JJ, maybe QQ. AK/AQ probably raises smaller short handed, and AJ or worse folds to your push.

I don't see folding TT 6-way in an SNG.... even with two shorties below you.

[konahead]

If you had JJ, I'd probably call and bet 600 on a non A/K/Q flop (you're first to act on the flop here). But the odds of a flop coming with all below J is ?? (not sure, but it's not good.)

I think the only way you win this hand is:
1 - you hit your set
2 - flop comes all below T and you bet 1/2 the pot, hoping opp has 2 high cards and folds. What do you do if he pushes over your raise? Do you believe him (AA/KK/QQ/JJ or that he hit a low set)? Lots of chips at stake here.

Smells like JJ to me (or TT, but since you have 2 of them....). You have nothing invested (except sb, which isn't yours anymore anyway). I fold here.

[swiggidy]

If you had JJ, I'd probably call and bet 600 on a non A/K/Q flop (you're first to act on the flop here). But the odds of a flop coming with all below J is ?? (not sure, but it's not good.)

I think these are right
all under T (2-9): 25.3%
all under Q (no tens): 36.4%
only one A, K, Q, or J: 40.5%

[Rondavu]

Min raise to $1,000 preflop. If he pushes preflop you fold. If he calls then open push a wide range of flops.

[konahead]

I like that line in some cases, but is a preflop call of your min-raise an indication that opp doesn't have a high pair? What if he has JJ? Won't he just flat-call your raise? Op will have position after the flop, so I don't think a min-raise buys you any info. He can flat-call with anything he was willing to raise with. He'll get to see what you do after the flop.

I just don't think stack sizes are big enough to min-raise here.

[Rondavu]

You have to attempt to find out if you're behind. If the opponent action doesn't let you know where you stand, then GG. I think most opponents give away this info however.

I've been using this line more often, because I think 80% of the time the opponent smooth calls the min raise in a spot where you have a vulnerable pair, you're currently ahead.

I can't advocate blindly pushing with a vulnerable pair, even with these stack sizes, when there is information readily available. I'm more than willing to race with it, even if the opponent pushes back in a lot of cases. What I'm really saying here, is when there's an opportunity to detect weakness in an opponent, I take it every time.

You both end up with all your chips in frequently, and sometimes you're behind. At least you took a shot at defining things. This move works best against a less aggressive opponent for obvious reasons.

[zenbitz]

I really don't like sticking in 1000 out of a stack of 2750 6-handed. Villian only has 1700 left... he cannot call, he must fold or push over.

So, raising 1000 (in this particular case) is really the same as pushing with the exception that a paranoid thinking player might be super scared of the non-push raise. Plus the BB covers both of you and might do something koo koo.

I think the Rondavu line is good with deeper stacks. Here I think it's pointless. Does it hurt? Probably not.

This is a very, very close play between calling/folding/pushing. I don't really think a 3.3X PFR UTG is indicative of AA/KK. So, really only 2 hands beat you, but many hands race you. I think he folds many racing hands.... so I lean towards a push here because I think I get a fold out of AJ/KQ/KJ maybe AQ. I also might get a call out of 99-77!