Short Stacked with an OESD

[Fortune 500]

Stage #304280159 Tourney ID 200230 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $50 - 2006-01-23 19:35:45 (ET)
Table: 5406072 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 3 - FORTUNE500 ($1045 in chips)
Seat 5 - GRUMPIE1017 ($820 in chips)
Seat 7 - WSOBWINNER ($3080 in chips)
Seat 8 - RMAK65 ($7435 in chips)
Seat 9 - MARSHALL_W ($1120 in chips)
MARSHALL_W - Posts small blind $50
FORTUNE500 - Posts big blind $100
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to FORTUNE500 [5s 4h]
GRUMPIE1017 - Folds
WSOBWINNER - Folds
RMAK65 - Calls $100
MARSHALL_W - Folds
FORTUNE500 - Checks
*** FLOP *** [2d 10h 3c]
FORTUNE500 - All-In $945


Yes or no?

[Sprayed]

I like it. You may win right there or he calls and you catch. No flush or pair on the board so I think that it is a good push.

[vqc]

Stage #304280159 Tourney ID 200230 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $50 - 2006-01-23 19:35:45 (ET)
Table: 5406072 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 3 - FORTUNE500 ($1045 in chips)
Seat 5 - GRUMPIE1017 ($820 in chips)
Seat 7 - WSOBWINNER ($3080 in chips)
Seat 8 - RMAK65 ($7435 in chips)
Seat 9 - MARSHALL_W ($1120 in chips)
MARSHALL_W - Posts small blind $50
FORTUNE500 - Posts big blind $100
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to FORTUNE500 [5s 4h]
GRUMPIE1017 - Folds
WSOBWINNER - Folds
RMAK65 - Calls $100
MARSHALL_W - Folds
FORTUNE500 - Checks
*** FLOP *** [2d 10h 3c]
FORTUNE500 - All-In $945


Yes or no?

i like it
be wary tho, iv known people to call with Ax here.

[zenbitz]

I always push this, I almost always get called, I win 1/3rd of the time.

What would big stack possibly fold that he burned 100 chips on? 67s-89s?

Well, sometimes you dudes (chicks?) who think bigstack poker is limping anytwo and pushing any flop they hit or are checked to.

[Fortune 500]

i like it
be wary tho, iv known people to call with Ax here.

That's exactly what happened. Biggest problem is he had A5... and I made a pair of 4s on the river. Oh well.

[a500lbgorilla]

If you know ppl to call with Ax here, then I hate this hardcore.

[Fortune 500]

If you know ppl to call with Ax here, then I hate this hardcore.

Opponent was reasonably tight. I really thought I could get a laydown here. Not sure what possessed him to call with the gutshot.

[THaC]

Hm, that's rough, but that's a push I make about 90% of the time with a read on the villain. Good push, bad luck. =)

[boost]

Again like I said in your other threads, I just dont get this. Your stack is WAY bigger then the pot, why do you open push this? I just cant see the value in it, he folds you have 1300, you are still short stacked... what did this do for you? He calls and you are behind 100% of the time, and win .. what .. 30-40% depending on what he calls with? Where is the ev in this? Why not check and get a free call, if he best THEN push. People will limp miss then min bet vs the bb a lot, and they cant call a check raise. You have no aparent strength here to me. With his stack I probably call you here too truthfully.. Well maybe not, but I dont think hes the donk people are making him out to be. Sorry but once again I dont understand the allin over bet.

[zenbitz]

People call with gutshot A high because you are desperate and they think (or at least hope) you are bluffing.

Note that calling with A-high gutshot here is solid poker, if he has a read...
You probably would raise any A or PP out of the BB vs a limper.
There is a good chance you have a T on this flop... but he can afford to look you up. With A5 or A4 he has 7 (maybe 10 if you are pushing a 2 or 3) outs twice... even if you have a pair.

I think from big stack perspective, it's only correct to fold abolute nonsense like 98s unless hero (ss sb) is very, very weak/tight.