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  1. #1

    Default Do you ever want to call...

    ... just because the bet doesn't make sense?

    Stage #306000602 Tourney ID 215964 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $15 - 2006-01-25 15:31:03 (ET)
    Table: 5439214 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - SUZ0927 ($920 in chips)
    Seat 2 - KEH10 ($1450 in chips)
    Seat 3 - PAPAGENIUS ($1865 in chips)
    Seat 4 - BEESBAITS ($1835 in chips)
    Seat 5 - CHILLY 313 ($1125 in chips)
    Seat 6 - SAKATTACK ($2210 in chips)
    Seat 7 - TELECA ($2325 in chips)
    Seat 8 - FORTUNE500 ($1540 in chips)
    Seat 9 - JACKSON HOLE ($230 in chips)
    TELECA - Posts small blind $15
    FORTUNE500 - Posts big blind $30
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to FORTUNE500 [Kc 9h]
    JACKSON HOLE - Folds
    SUZ0927 - Calls $30
    KEH10 - Folds
    PAPAGENIUS - Folds
    BEESBAITS - Folds
    CHILLY 313 - Folds
    SAKATTACK - Folds
    TELECA - Calls $15
    FORTUNE500 - Checks
    *** FLOP *** [Ac 5d 4h]
    TELECA - Checks
    FORTUNE500 - Checks
    SUZ0927 - Checks
    *** TURN *** [Ac 5d 4h] [10c]
    TELECA - Checks
    FORTUNE500 - Checks
    SUZ0927 - Checks
    *** RIVER *** [Ac 5d 4h 10c] [Ks]
    TELECA - Checks
    FORTUNE500 - Bets $60
    SUZ0927 - All-In(Raise) $890 to $890
    TELECA - Folds
    FORTUNE500 -???

    I know it would be a horrendous call, but did they really walk an ace all the way down? I can't believe there's a flopped straight out there given the position. I suppose the logic is consistent with a set, but would a set really shove here? Wouldn't a value raise be more consistent? Raggy two pair is possible.

    I don't know why I posted this, other than the fact that the hand smells fishy. I REALLY wanted to call this... but I didn't have the sack.

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  2. #2
    Yeah.... I want to call to. But you can't. KT/K5/K4 might do this. A frustrated 23 or AA... maybe even 44/55/TT.

    So, pot is laying 1.17:1 odds. The only thing you beat is a weaker K or T. I think he has be be bluffing (or have a weaker pair) like 40% of the time for this to be a good call.
  3. #3
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    Smells like QJ to me.

    Seen this kind of move A LOT lately when people have the nutz - don't know why - but it really does make you want to call, huh. (I know, cuz I've called a couple - lol )

    Don't even think about it. Good fold.

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