% of flops, on average?

[TheAntar]

Just curious how I'm doing compared to some of the more successful SNG players out there.

I feel like I might play too few flops in some situations, but other games I'm in too many. I have some trouble finding a middle ground.

And then I read about players talking about how they'll always muck QK for example and I have to wonder -- I only get a hand better than KQ a few times an hour, right? Surely when you are talking about c-betting the flop when you miss, for instance, you are in more hands than top-10. And surely you can't even win a SNG playing only top10 hands the whole way, you don't get enough of them unless you get super lucky.

So how many flops do you see in a typical SNG? Obviously this is card-dependant and table dependant but I'm just curious about more of an average.

I've only been playing online for about three weeks but I have quite a bit more experience in 4-8 way NL home games. I've won a few SNGs and I've lost a few more and I always seem to either go on to win the whole shebang or go out in (the bubble? right? hehe) right before the money line.

Just curious. This is my first post but I did read a bunch of threads before posting so hopefully I didn't miss an active thread on the subject.

[zenbitz]

You know, I don't even know.

It's irrelevant becaue it might be 20-25% first level, down to 10% next 2 levels, then up to 50% on the bubble, then back down to 33% ITM. Well, hopefully not 50% SEEN flops, but rather VP$IP (voluntarily put $$ in pot).

I think I am at 98% flops seen or won preflop when it's heads up.

[mattstamillion]

Thanks to pokerstars stats I found out i generally see over 50% of the flops. I won about 30% of the flops i've seen, either by showdowns or stealing. I guess tight play is overrated? It's all about getting reads on youre opponents. Studying betting patterns is all that can help you over the internet.

[ProZachNation]

I know I dont like wasting chips early on, I look to double up or not really risk chips in the pot.

Early on Ill limp QJ at worst from the Button, Ill limp all pocket pairs. Sometimes I muck KQ from a early position if I know somone will raise. Ill fold AJ to a 3XBB raise early on.


I just play super tight and only look to double up early. If I spot a weakness I will attack that player tho.




So I probably am averaging about 20% or less in SnGs of seeing flops.

There are other people who like to be a table leader or play laggy and they might see 50% of flops.

[Blinky]

Don't aim for a certain percentage of plops seen. It's just a statistic and your goal shouldn't be ftting to an arbitrary number which has very little bearing on your performance.

As zenbitz says the number of plops seen depends a lot on the level and game situation. And as for KQ?

Well it depends

If your table is full of loose maniacs and you're UTG this is pretty much an autofold. If your table is loose, stupid and you're sitting on the BN maybe it isn't so bad a hand after all.

Finally something worth noting: you can do well at low-stake SnGs playing two-street bingo(tm). ST SnGs reach that stage very quickly.

[Warpe]

I'm generally between 15-25% of flops seen over the course of an entire multi-table SnG. When I first started playing I was up around 50-60%. I don't monitor it that much, but do check from time to time and it seems pretty consistent. Heads-up is an entirely different matter of course. Be interesting to know ripptyde's number, if he knows it...