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Flopped straight, turned flush, do you fold?

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  1. #1

    Default Flopped straight, turned flush, do you fold?

    No reads, I was at the table for maybe 10 hands so far. I think I should have either folded the turn or pushed there. do you slowplay this flop like I did? is it a flush over flush?

    ***** Hand History for Game 3437357469 *****
    $100 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, January 25, 22:20:15 EDT 2006
    Table Table 73596 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 1: SmackinYaUp ( $120.50 )
    Seat 2: SharkMerc ( $114.30 )
    Seat 3: BrokeFrmBJ ( $100 )
    Seat 4: crickeye ( $53.50 )
    Seat 5: rollacorolla ( $108.05 )
    Seat 6: jd9786 ( $208.80 )
    jd9786 posts small blind [$0.50].
    SmackinYaUp posts big blind [$1].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SmackinYaUp [ 9s 7s ]
    SharkMerc folds.
    BrokeFrmBJ raises [$4].
    crickeye folds.
    rollacorolla folds.
    jd9786 calls [$3.50].
    >You have options at Table 65303 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
    SmackinYaUp calls [$3].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 8s, Th ]
    jd9786 checks.
    SmackinYaUp checks.
    >You have options at Table 65303 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
    BrokeFrmBJ bets [$10].
    jd9786 calls [$10].
    >You have options at Table 65303 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
    SmackinYaUp calls [$10].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
    jd9786 checks.
    SmackinYaUp bets [$15].
    BrokeFrmBJ folds.
    >You have options at Table 65303 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
    jd9786 raises [$45].
    SmackinYaUp calls [$30].
    ** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
    jd9786 bets [$62].
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  2. #2
    I'd lead out or check-raise the flop, leaning more towards leading out. On the turn you should fold. All you can beat is a seriously overplayed smaller flush.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by dsaxton
    On the turn you should fold. All you can beat is a seriously overplayed smaller flush.
    I don't necessarily agree with this. From villian's perspective, why does he need a flush to raise the turn like this? Smackin calls $10 on the flop, then bets out 1/3 pot on the turn. All it takes is an aggro villian to make a move here, figuring there's a good chance the original raiser will fold to a squeeze and that smackin needs at least a flush to call here.

    Without a read I don't think folding the turn is a good idea. I would just call the raise and hope my position can buy me a cheap showdown, otherwise bet if checked to. As played I think you have to fold that river.

    But like dsaxton said I think you should've lead out or CR'ed the flop to start building the pot early.
  4. #4
    you have a really strong but yet pretty vulnerable hand. I either CR or lead-out, depending on how I feel about the villains. If I lead out I am looking to go for a 3-bet committing them i.e. hero raise 8 villain raise to 20 1 fold hero raise to 50-60. Problem here is naturally that you are forced to go Ai on turn no matter what comes. or could anybody find a fold if Qs or 8 or T comes on turn? I cant.
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  5. #5
    Raise the freakin' flop man.

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