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  1. #1
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    Default why i don't like QJs

    I made some mistakes here but what do you make of this? Early in SnG (2nd hand) so no real reads on the opps. This is a 'stars $22.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    Hero (t1620)
    Button (t1420)
    SB (t1480)
    BB (t1500)
    UTG (t1500)
    UTG+1 (t1500)
    MP1 (t1480)
    MP2 (t1500)
    MP3 (t1500)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, J.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 1 fold, MP2 calls t20, 1 fold, Hero calls t20, 2 folds, BB raises to t100, UTG+1 calls t80, MP2 calls t80, Hero calls t80.

    Flop: (t410) 2, J, 9 (4 players)
    BB bets t100, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls t100, Hero raises to t300, BB calls t200, MP2 calls t200.

    Turn: (t1310) T (3 players)
    BB bets t200, MP2 calls t200, Hero calls t200.

    River: (t1910) 9 (3 players)
    BB checks, MP2 bets t900 (All-In), Hero ... ?

    I'm thinking the main mistake was continuing with the hand after 2 players call my flop raise (turn gave me oesd though). Additionally on the river villain could just be making a move thinking the original raiser missed and I displayed weakness by just calling the turn bet. Actually if he checked to me I might have done this. Anyway I'm thinking there's not much I'm ahead of here...
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    I haven 't read the post yet... but is that Donny Baker as in From Bob And Tom? That's the best screen name ever... I Swear To God It is!

    On the hand... Hero Folds when Raised after limping.

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    You win! First one to mention it. Great show!

    Oh yeah, and I think you're right, this should be a preflop fold.
  4. #4
    I don't mind the preflop limp but agree with Fortune, fold to the raise. On the flop, I raise to the size of the pot (600), if this gets called I try to check it down unless I hit big on the turn.

    My guess is that MP2 has AJ/KJ or 22/99, I don't think JJ would have limped.
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    Yeah, I folded the river. He had me or at least my hand wasn't strong enough to call. Original raiser folded as well.
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    pf play aside, I would probably push the turn, but then I would have raised more on the flop as well, so I would have less money behind, but more in the pot. OESD plus outs for 2 pair plus TP plus a bit of fold equity equals all of my chips in the pot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgil
    pf play aside, I would probably push the turn, but then I would have raised more on the flop as well, so I would have less money behind, but more in the pot. OESD plus outs for 2 pair plus TP plus a bit of fold equity equals all of my chips in the pot.
    Interesting. This is kind of what I was looking for, ways to play a hand like this specifically in SnGs. Now I'm torn between calling and pushing the turn.

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