AQo hand ($10 SnG)

[nogenius]

PokerStars Game #3807084255: Tournament #18908891, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/01/30 - 15:00:56 (ET)
Table '18908891 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: slender (1660 in chips)
Seat 2: aces_sooted (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: rosco111 (1510 in chips)
Seat 4: rmartian (1580 in chips)
Seat 5: im nogenius (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: stealtrap (1540 in chips)
Seat 7: Murr14 (1460 in chips)
Seat 8: turtle0761 (1450 in chips)
Seat 9: ugleeman (1370 in chips)
Murr14: posts small blind 15
turtle0761: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to im nogenius [Ac Qs]
ugleeman: folds
slender: folds
aces_sooted: folds
rosco111: folds
rmartian: folds
im nogenius: calls 30
stealtrap: folds
Murr14: folds
turtle0761: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc Tc 7c]
turtle0761: bets 90
im nogenius ???

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turtle0561 was tight from what I had seen so far.

What is your move here?

Thanks in advance.

[WildBobAA]

Well you definatly should have raised preflop.

That being said, this is definatly worth a raise, you have 9 outs to the nut flush and an A, K, or Q might also be outs. I'd make it 250 and see what happens

[zenbitz]

I would just call based on implied odds. Maybe fold given the nothing pot. Also, raise pre-flop genius!

If you raise and he pushes.... you fold with nfd/nsd? If he bet like 30 I might raise.
You don't really want him to fold a worse flush draw! That's disasterous!

I can't tell if his overbet is scared feigned strength or just building the microscopic pot.

So, call. You don't have pot odds, but 90 chips in the scheme of an SNG isn't much considering the strength of your draws.

My guess is that if you call he checks non-club turn. Actually, he probably checks club-turn as well... since if he has a flush he shouldn't bet, and if he doesn't have a flush, he shouldn't bet.

[WildBobAA]

What are you scared of here? A jack? You're a favorite over AJ here. You really think he'd bet out with a made flush? You think he would check JJ, TT, or 77 in the BB PF vs a single limper? Raise it up and take the lead. Give yourself 2 chances to win the pot with what is probably the best hand here (best hand meaning highest percentage to win).

[zenbitz]

Boy, we are just at Loggerheads today, eh Bob??

Raising is OK - only if you don't fold worse hands. It's a scary board. One that kind of hit you. Why scare away QJ no clubs or whatever?

If the pot was bigger I would raise this without a second thought.

[konahead]

First - if folded around to you in CO+1 , raise preflop w AQo. 3-4xbb.

I don't think I raise his flop bet, and unless you're getting implied odds, you should actually fold. If your club hits you won't get much more unless you can trick opp. Smooth-call flop bet and see what turn brings. Too early to get froggy with draws. Opp probably has a J or T and is trying to get you to fold a high club.

And yes - I think opp would bet out made flush here, especially if it was a low flush. He was bb - could have like 53clubs or such. I don't think you should count aces, kings, or queens as outs, either, just in case.

If club hits turn, make sure you check it if he does (and he probably will). If no club hits, you probably want to fold it out unless opp gives you 4-1 odds. This early, it's worth 90 chips to try to hit your flush, but thats about it. Hopefully a club will hit turn, you'll check to his check, and he'll get froggy on the river, where you can actually make some chips.....

[WildBobAA]

I don't see how you can just throw away your hand with your hand and this board. His most likely holding is J-rag, or a 10 (wich you said) which you are beating right now (as in you have the better chance to win the hand, about 60%). 1 in 100 times here he has AA, KK, or QQ, it's not a valid possibility at all. The flush is a possibility and the worst possible hand you could be up against but you do have redraws.

You should pop it up here. He'll probably fold/call. If he calls, he's going to check the turn and you can check behind, getting a free card to hit your draw. Folding is really terrible here.

[Bailey]

I dont always raise preflop here... I usually limp AK AQ etc when the blinds are this small.. makes it easier to let go

[konahead]

I guess in re-reading my post, it looks like I'm saying fold. I meant it to be call - I was just stating you don't really have the odds to call, but it's only 90. My "smooth-call flop bet and see what the turn brings" kind of got lost in the shuffle....

I wasn't going towards a raise simply because if opp has the flush, he's probably not giving you a free turn card anyway.... If he had bet a reasonable amount - 1/2 pot or so - then I agree a raise would probably buy you a free card. But a decent raise here will cost you an extra 200 chips (at least) over his 90, and just not sure it's worth it on a draw. If I KNEW opp didnt have the mini-flush, and Aces, Kings, Queens, and clubs were all outs - I'd defiintely raise it up here.

[WildBobAA]

And he's much more likely to have one of those other hands than the flush.