JJ, What do you do?

[zarry]

Forgot to say 15+1 very early in tourny as u could tell though no reads


PokerStars Game #3830425100: Tournament #19024437, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/02/01 - 18:48:49 (ET)
Table '19024437 2' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: jimfar (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: fortrav (1680 in chips)
Seat 3: zarryL (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: ShawnT58 (1140 in chips)
Seat 5: Chaks74 (1545 in chips)
Seat 6: TBone187 (1335 in chips)
Seat 7: RGRAY79 (1900 in chips)
Seat 8: hackfest (1450 in chips)
Seat 9: ckholdem181 (1480 in chips)
hackfest: posts small blind 15
ckholdem181: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zarryL [Jd Jc]
jimfar: raises 60 to 90
fortrav: folds
zarryL: raises 210 to 300
ShawnT58: folds
Chaks74: folds
TBone187: folds
RGRAY79: calls 300
hackfest: folds
ckholdem181: folds
jimfar: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s 6d 3h]
zarryL: bets 420
RGRAY79: raises 1180 to 1600 and is all-in


What do you do in this situation?

[bluey]

Call.

[zenbitz]

That's a monsterous PF re-raise. Would not 200 do the job?

This is tough, because it's a $15, and you can't really give him credit for having a brain.

You kinda have to call though with 720 in there. I call, but I think I am beat. I just pray he has TT or is a total donk with AK. 44 is also *possible*.

If calling this a/i makes you ill, you probably should have checked the flop. It's not like he has a 4. Of course, if an A or K flops you will be REALLY ill.

Your mistake originally here is raising too much. If you raise 200 (still healthy) you probably get the exact same call + original raiser fold. Even if it's 3 way, that just means you have to check/fold 2 over cards to your JJ.

With pot at 545 instead of 745, you can lead with 250 instead of 420, and can make a case for folding.

Or, since it's a $15 he probably had 99 and YHIG!

[konahead]

yeah - I don't play JJ that hard, especially early. I would have probably just called the original raise, or raised to ~200 as zenbitz said, and hoped for no overcards or to hit a set. I also would check that flop and see what the other players have to say. I like to keep pots small in the early going, unless I fill up to a monster. I play JJ more like TT than KK - and I think you played it like KK here.

I get aggressive with it in the later stages.

[zarry]

lol of course with me lately he has qq but what can ya do

[fjuanl]

i dont like reraising with jacks from a UTG raiser (this early in the tourny). call and see a flop, you have position.

[mcatdog]

i dont like reraising with jacks from a UTG raiser (this early in the tourny). call and see a flop, you have position.

Agreed, unless UTG is a known idiot, you want to keep the pot small at this point.

[zarry]

yea that raise was a little unnecc lol