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  1. #1

    Default 10+1. i just thought this was interesting

    With 20% calling ranges for all villians
    hand 1 is a +EV push
    hand 2 is not.

    #Game No : 3538055806
    ***** Hand History for Game 3538055806 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:20091327 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Saturday, February 11, 23:06:59 EDT 2006
    Table Table 71456 (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Total number of players : 3
    Seat 4: Evest57 ( $1865 )
    Seat 5: C121461 ( $4350 )
    Seat 8: TheBoneHer ( $1785 )
    Trny:20091327 Level:5
    Blinds(75/150)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to TheBoneHer [ 2d Ah ]
    C121461 folds.
    TheBoneHer is all-In [1710]
    Evest57 folds.
    >You have options at Table 67223 Table!.
    >You have options at Table 71449 Table!.
    TheBoneHer does not show cards.
    TheBoneHer wins 1935 chips
    Game #3538057708 starts.

    #Game No : 3538057708
    ***** Hand History for Game 3538057708 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:20091327 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Saturday, February 11, 23:07:16 EDT 2006
    Table Table 71456 (Real Money)
    Seat 8 is the button
    Total number of players : 3
    Seat 4: Evest57 ( $1715 )
    Seat 5: C121461 ( $4350 )
    Seat 8: TheBoneHer ( $1935 )
    Trny:20091327 Level:6
    Blinds(100/200)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to TheBoneHer [ Ad 3h ]
    TheBoneHer is all-In [1935]
    >You have options at Table 71449 Table!.
    Evest57 is all-In [1615]
    >You have options at Table 67223 Table!.
    C121461 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 7s, 6c ]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]

    These 2 hands happened consecutively.

    I thought it was interesting. Just look at the stacks, position, and blinds.
  2. #2
    thats weird, i would be more incline to push the second hand and just raise the first hand......considering the blind sizes
  3. #3
    Because A2o is good heads up, and A3o isn't very good 3-way after "stealing" the last blinds???
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  4. #4
    In the first hand you're on the SB and the big stack has already folded. I think that's why.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisBCritter
    Because A2o is good heads up, and A3o isn't very good 3-way after "stealing" the last blinds???
    the effect of stealing the last blinds is quantifiable when we set the villians calling ranges, in this case we didnt change the villians calling ranges so we assume that "stealing" the last blinds hasnt changed the way they react towards us.
  6. #6
    Position (SB vs. UTG) and the stack (Shorter stack vs. Big stack ) in the BB change the $EV of it alot.

    Not to mention Evest being sick of your ICM crap, haha.

    When hands like that happen consectively, I kinda get worried pushing medicore hands the 2nd time because of the "that person must be pushing crap" effect you get....unless the other two people are that tight.

    But that's not that much of a problem here, any ace is fairly good 3 way.
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    1. overvaluing mid pocket pairs
    2. knowing you should fold, but donkishly calling or raising anyway
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by VQCsGirl
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisBCritter
    Because A2o is good heads up, and A3o isn't very good 3-way after "stealing" the last blinds???
    the effect of stealing the last blinds is quantifiable when we set the villians calling ranges, in this case we didnt change the villians calling ranges so we assume that "stealing" the last blinds hasnt changed the way they react towards us.
    This is Vq right? U posting under girls name?
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Trikflow77
    Quote Originally Posted by VQCsGirl
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisBCritter
    Because A2o is good heads up, and A3o isn't very good 3-way after "stealing" the last blinds???
    the effect of stealing the last blinds is quantifiable when we set the villians calling ranges, in this case we didnt change the villians calling ranges so we assume that "stealing" the last blinds hasnt changed the way they react towards us.
    This is Vq right? U posting under girls name?
    I was on her laptop in class.

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