5,50 KQo pf push

[Halv]

UTG has been limping from any position and calling raises up to 8xBB with crap hands e.g. 97s, Q5o etc. Based on this I'm thinking I pushed it hoping he would call, and that his call would make the other limpers fold. Stupid or genious?

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 179367700 *****
$15/$30 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 02 14 15:17:36 2006
Tournament #8446109 $5 + $0.5 - Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 10: Aceo1 ( $935 )
Seat 2: funymonk ( $535 )
Seat 4: MONKEEE5 ( $2050 )
Seat 5: Willski3 ( $1770 )
Seat 6: Innesf ( $905 )
Seat 7: barney11 ( $475 )
Seat 8: rrat62 ( $1035 )
Seat 9: HalvSame ( $295 )
Aceo1 posts small blind [$15].
funymonk posts big blind [$30].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HalvSame [ Kh Qc ]
MONKEEE5 calls [$30].
Willski3 calls [$30].
Innesf calls [$30].
barney11 calls [$30].
rrat62 folds.
HalvSame raises [$295].

[Fimanoid]

Somebody is definately calling this push, and you're flipping at best. Maybe wait for a better spot?

[Halv]

What I'm looking for is a call from the big stack UTG. If he calls, the other limpers will need a very good hand to join in even if they have noticed that he is loose, right?

Of course he might have a hand here as well, but that's a risk I'm willing to take. And if he folds I'm probably flipping against someone behind him, as I think AK or AQ would raise it up especially with so many ppl in the pot.

[Staresy]

Somebody is definately calling this push, and you're flipping at best. Maybe wait for a better spot?

no way! given the action, I almost want someone to call. I think I am going to be either massively ahead (QJ or KJ) rather than massively behind (no PFR). At worst I am up against a weak Ace or a small-mid pp. I'll take that given my stack size, plus the additional dead money in the pot.

Gamb00l!

[gabe]

you gotta do it

[Halv]

Say I've got no reads, what would be the correct play?

[gabe]

you dont have many chips, you gotta do it.

next time, dont lose so many chips early

[WildBobAA]

You're so short, I'd be willing to flip here.

[Rockymv]

Yep, a flip with all those dead chip is just fine when you're this short.

[Halv]

Yeah, I did push. Lost the HH, what happened was that the big stack called and the rest folded. He flipped K9o and I took the pot unimproved.

[JL]

What I'm looking for is a call from the big stack UTG. If he calls, the other limpers will need a very good hand to join in even if they have noticed that he is loose, right?

Wrong.
If he calls the other limpers are getting good pot odds to join in. For example if I was holding a low suited connector and I acted before you and you pushed all in after i limped and 2 people called your all in, then i would be getting great odds to call.

I would definetely push this if only one or less people limped before me. But in your situation I would probably fold. Blinds are still low enough for you to survive one more orbit.

[Scuba Chuck]

I think there is something very important for you to learn here, and it's not directly related to this hand. First, your question, who cares if you're called or not, this is a solid/smart hand to move allin here with. Frankly, you should hope you're called by 66 or something, as doubling up here is very profitable, and retaining your sub 300 stack is ~ meh.

But there's something even more interesting to think about for the futre, for when you are the bigstack in this situation. And it's one of those hands, where we experienced players will comment that there's more to think about here than pure level 1 thinking. If you are MONKEEE or Willski, when you get one of those strong hands, but a range 2 hand (so not so strong), like TT/JJ or AJs or AQ, one of those hands that can get you into trouble if you play it too strong preflop, and aren't developed post flop, this situation presents itself very well to limp with those hands and an opportunity to isolate one of the shorties.

So, rather than trying to play a hand like TT or JJ too strong preflop, and will scare off a weak hand from one of the shorties who might/will foolishly try and steal all the deadchips limped into the pot with a hand like A8s or KJ (or worse - yes much worse). My advice is to think about all of the potential outcomes of this hand preflop. Think about your position, and the stacksizes of others. If I had a hand like 99+, AJs+, I would certainly limp here with the opportunity to try and isolate against one of the shorties who will more often than not lose patience and try and steal with a marginal hand (particularly ones far worse than KQ).