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    Default When are we making moves?

    Where- Single table SNG
    Blinds- 50 /100
    Stack- Medium 1400-1700
    Game play up until this point- TIGHT
    Players left at the table- 5
    Player A Large stack 2000+ , tight quality player
    Player B Medium Stack 1400+, keeps limping, plays anything suited or face card, has showed down some nice hands.
    Player C Medium Stack 1400+ , guards blinds, raises button or in late position with anything
    Player D low -medium stack 800 , wishing for quality cards to double up.

    Based on the table information, and me coming in 5th place a number of times... What style is the best approach for play at this table?
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    steal from the tight player

    valuebet the loose players.

    resteal from the aggressive player if he doesn't loosely call allins.
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    Thanks Gabe.. Good comments. I find myself almost always in this situation. Same scenario over and over. The waiting game kills you. I almost want to check autofold and wait it out. Sometimes I feel forced to make a move. Especially if the maniac doubles up......... Then with any two decent cards I turn to a more aggressive style. Lately, someone will notice when Iam trying to steal or put pressure on the short stack and then Iam in a hand 3 way and sometimes it wont work out. Anymore suggestions on my above comments or my original post?
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    you make your plays on a hand-by-hand, player-by-player basis. By the time ITM comes about, you should have a good read on who you can steal from at will and who will show resistance. you can adjust accordingly
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    steal from the tight player

    valuebet the loose players.

    resteal from the aggressive player if he doesn't loosely call allins.
    This is good advice... except for the last part. Sometimes you find out the hard way if he loosely calls all ins...

    I guess that doesn't make the advice bad, but be SURE he doesn't loosly call allins!
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    In this kind of table the layout of the table (who seats next to whom) is very improtant


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    Ok guys, loosely calls all ins. Meaning he calls with any two cards because of odds ???? Or cause hes trying to dominate the table and he is playing to eliminate people? How can you distinguish the two? I will loosely call anything if the odds are correct. Well maybe not everything... Anymore comments????
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    Quote Originally Posted by fasin8ing
    Where- Single table SNG
    Blinds- 50 /100
    Stack- Medium 1400-1700
    Game play up until this point- TIGHT
    Players left at the table- 5
    Player A Large stack 2000+ , tight quality player
    Player B Medium Stack 1400+, keeps limping, plays anything suited or face
    card, has showed down some nice hands.
    Player C Medium Stack 1400+ , guards blinds, raises button or in late
    position with anything
    Player D low -medium stack 800 , wishing for quality cards to double up.

    Based on the table information, and me coming in 5th place a number of
    times... What style is the best approach for play at this table?
    Buyin? Location?

    This looks like a standard game situation. At this point, with 14 - 17 x
    BB, you can afford to be patient and capitalize on your opponents mistakes.
    Player D is the likely loosest player at this point. Meaning he is apt to
    play back at raises/aggression with medium aces, two broadway, and pairs like 22. Especially beginning on the
    next level.

    The stacks you want to attack are A,B,C. You can raise to 3xBB against
    Player A to steal. Against Player C, you are likely to have to push to take
    his blinds. Player B can be played with by making c-bets, and
    folding/quitting to any counter-aggression.

    But most importantly, I wouldn't really be thinking about "making a move" on this level. I would relax and let other's make a mistake here. You should be able to pickup one set of blinds, and maintain some semblance of a stack over the next 10 hands, and begin to pickup aggression on the following levels.

    As to coming in 5th place more often than you like, I cannot comment with no information.
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    I would agree with Chuck's assessment that it is too early in the tournament to start making a bunch of moves. If you are finishing 5th a bunch, without knowing any more info, it could be that these "moves" are costing you too many chips.
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