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  1. #1

    Default Stupid. Is this where I fold everything?

    Villian is definitely lagg. I dont have the sng calculator deal, so I dunno what I can play here.

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    UTG (t1250)
    MP (t595)
    Hero (t2815)
    SB (t7280)
    BB (t1560)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, J.
    2 folds, Hero raises to t375, SB raises to t7355, 1 fold, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t7880

    Obviously he could be pushing any two, since he knows I dont want to bust out.
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    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

  2. #2
    easy fold. If you're ahead, it's probably not by much. If not, you're either on the short end of the coinflip or just flat out beat.
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  3. #3
    I'm hypothesizing I shouldn't make the raise in the first place.
    BR: $.1k
    Goal 2: July 1 $10k

    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

  4. #4
    This is standard. You have to raise AJ on the button when folded to you
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    the big stack can do that with any two cards if hes good because he knows you have to fold
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    Hypothetical question:

    Next time around you are on the button and have AJ again. It folds around to you. What is your play? Lets assume that you have decided that bigstack is a good player (we're not giving him credt for a monster on the posted hand).
  7. #7
    Raise is fine. W/o a good read that he can do this with any 2 you gotta fold.

    Can't quite use ICM here, only works when its folded to you to call an open AI push or push AI yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    the big stack can do that with any two cards if hes good because he knows you have to fold
    Exactly, so my question is why raise in the first place?
    BR: $.1k
    Goal 2: July 1 $10k

    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

  9. #9
    Some big stacks aren't good. If I had crap cards I'd prolly fold to your raise cause I'm not a good big stack, lol.
    pulling a courtiebee pŏŏl-ĭng ā kôrt-ē-bē (verb phrase):
    1. overvaluing mid pocket pairs
    2. knowing you should fold, but donkishly calling or raising anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAX
    Hypothetical question:

    Next time around you are on the button and have AJ again. It folds around to you. What is your play? Lets assume that you have decided that bigstack is a good player (we're not giving him credt for a monster on the posted hand).
    I just might open-push it.
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    Push or fold is correct in this spot
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  12. #12
    If the big stack is being super aggresive, don't raise. He's a smart player, A call here without AA or KK (And i'm not sure you could call with those) would be -ev. I use the same strategy this guy uses so Idk what to do against it. Just don't get in a pot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluey
    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    the big stack can do that with any two cards if hes good because he knows you have to fold
    Exactly, so my question is why raise in the first place?
    because you figure he's not smart.

    you said he was LAG though...but that doesn't mean hes been using this move alot. if he has just been pushing every hand, sure maybe fold before the raise. but i doubt this is the case, so you have to raise because you are on the button with AJ.
  14. #14
    Do you guys play AQ the same way then?

    Would you be able to call with AQ or AK?

    What about if the AJ was suited?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    Push or fold is correct in this spot
    LOL, I'm pretty sure that's not very profitable. And with ~ 19xBB, I don't think pushing your stack in to gain 8% in chips (even less in prize pool equity) is that great here.

    OP, I think you played this hand perfectly. In the future, you should be posting your buyin as well. With a $100 BR, I'm assuming this is a $5.50?
  16. #16
    As much of a push/fold monkey as I am, Scuba's right. That would be an insane amount of chips to push preflop.
  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Werddown
    Do you guys play AQ the same way then?

    Would you be able to call with AQ or AK?

    What about if the AJ was suited?
    This is just a math question. Put your guy on a reasonable hand range and plug into pokerstove. Now that you've asked the question, it's now your homework to report back your results.
  18. #18
    Only if he's making a habit of this am I calling with AJ. K or Q in his hand and you have trouble, and you don't have that big of an edge against unders, you're a slight dog to pockets, monsters eat you all day.

    AQ/AK I call just because it's more likely I have him dominated.
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  19. #19
    i think you have to fold here, even best case you are like 2:1

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