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    Default How do you play pocket 2's?

    1 In what situations would you guys call a small to medium stack all in with pocket 2's

    2 Limping 2's for a possible set is standard, but when would you call a preflop raise with 2's
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    Any two cards your opponent has will be higher than yours so he myswell be holding AK.
    If you only risk losing 10%-15% of your stack you might consider calling it if you will knock him out of hte tournament.

    The more people in the hand before you the more reason you have to call a raise because of the juicy implied odds if you hit.
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    1) very very rarely. Would have to be a very short stack (maybe 5% of my stack). 22 dies to other PPs of course and it's actually a dog against a lot of suited and unsuited connectors

    2) depends on stacksizes and blind situation. For SnGs this usually means you won't be sethunting except on the first few levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkenRahl
    Any two cards your opponent has will be higher than yours so he myswell be holding AK.
    If you only risk losing 10%-15% of your stack you might consider calling it if you will knock him out of hte tournament.

    The more people in the hand before you the more reason you have to call a raise because of the juicy implied odds if you hit.
    Say you are down to 5-handed and find 22 in the BB with blinds at 100-200. You have 1300 and the button holds 700 in chips. Everyone folds to the button who moves all in and SB fold. Do you fold?
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    I bin that in a second. I want to be the aggressor and, ultimately, I am looking for folds, rather than a call.

    With his push, the best you are hoping for is a flip. Plus, 22 is a little different to your typical pair v overcard race in that (a) it has so many more ways of being counterfeited and (b) as Blinky says, it is actually a dog against certain s00ted combinations
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    Say you are down to 5-handed and find 22 in the BB with blinds at 100-200. You have 1300 and the button holds 700 in chips. Everyone folds to the button who moves all in and SB fold. Do you fold?
    That is absolutely NOT the case to play 2's. With 2's you aren't interested in seeing a flop and in your instance you would be relegated to letting the button see all 5 cards.

    Another thing to consider when playing pocket 2's is "first in vigorish". As Staresy mentioned you want to be the aggressor and shouldn't be calling raises with pocket 2's except in very rare situations.
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    Stil, in the given situation you need to make some move soon and if your read and the situation says you know the smaller stack would steal blinds with almost any two cards, it can't be completely wrong to go for a flip since you actually have a pair?
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    Wow, I never realized how weak 22 is. Did some pokerstoving.

    41,095,296 games 0.062 secs 662,827,354 games/sec

    Board:
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 49.0807 % 47.67% 01.41% { 22 }
    Hand 2: 50.9193 % 49.51% 01.41% { 74s }

    41,095,296 games 0.062 secs 662,827,354 games/sec

    Board:
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 50.1067 % 49.78% 00.32% { 22 }
    Hand 2: 49.8933 % 49.57% 00.32% { AKs }

    41,095,296 games 0.078 secs 526,862,769 games/sec

    Board:
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 46.1616 % 45.45% 00.71% { 22 }
    Hand 2: 53.8384 % 53.12% 00.71% { JTs }
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Borax
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkenRahl
    Any two cards your opponent has will be higher than yours so he myswell be holding AK.
    If you only risk losing 10%-15% of your stack you might consider calling it if you will knock him out of hte tournament.

    The more people in the hand before you the more reason you have to call a raise because of the juicy implied odds if you hit.
    Say you are down to 5-handed and find 22 in the BB with blinds at 100-200. You have 1300 and the button holds 700 in chips. Everyone folds to the button who moves all in and SB fold. Do you fold?
    Depends on how many chips the other players at the table have. If everyone else has 2000, calling is +EV unless he's pushing a very tight range, which he isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockymv
    Quote Originally Posted by Borax
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkenRahl
    Any two cards your opponent has will be higher than yours so he myswell be holding AK.
    If you only risk losing 10%-15% of your stack you might consider calling it if you will knock him out of hte tournament.

    The more people in the hand before you the more reason you have to call a raise because of the juicy implied odds if you hit.
    Say you are down to 5-handed and find 22 in the BB with blinds at 100-200. You have 1300 and the button holds 700 in chips. Everyone folds to the button who moves all in and SB fold. Do you fold?
    Depends on how many chips the other players at the table have. If everyone else has 2000, calling is +EV unless he's pushing a very tight range, which he isn't.
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    22 is a hand that is either way behind (other PP) or coinflip

    So as staresy and other mentions I want to be the agressor with it and take the pot without seeing the flop, or at worst get called by 1 villian with 2 overs (so combining the fold equity and the coinflip it is EV+).

    Early on I would call a raise with 22 only if it is a small raise (up to 3BB) and there are multiple callers to the raise.

    22 is also not a bad hand in situations when you think villian has 2 overs and he throws a small raise, you call the raise and jam the pot if the flop is low cards. He will probably fold is 2 overs and even if he calls you are ahead


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