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  1. #1
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    Default When to bet? A couple of hands..

    Hand no. 1:
    ***** Pacific Hand History for Game 180782686 *****
    $10/$20 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 02 23 09:44:24 2006
    Tournament #8643117 $5 + $0.5 - Table #1 (Real Money)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 10: dibbs84 ( $800 )
    Seat 1: 6fumbles ( $790 )
    Seat 2: rplace8 ( $770 )
    Seat 3: JeanettP ( $780 )
    Seat 5: HalvSame ( $800 )
    Seat 6: MadRus33 ( $740 )
    Seat 7: tashwell ( $1670 )
    Seat 8: Jier ( $890 )
    Seat 9: kultbult ( $760 )
    JeanettP posts small blind [$10].
    HalvSame posts big blind [$20].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to HalvSame [ Ks Jc ]
    MadRus33 folds.
    tashwell folds.
    Jier folds.
    kultbult folds.
    dibbs84 folds.
    6fumbles calls [$20].
    rplace8 calls [$20].
    JeanettP calls [$10].
    HalvSame checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, 7d, 9h ]
    JeanettP checks.
    HalvSame bets [$80].
    6fumbles folds.
    rplace8 folds.
    JeanettP calls [$80].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
    JeanettP checks.
    HalvSame???

    Check-calling from the small blind on this flop means draw, right?

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    Hand no. 2:
    ***** Pacific Hand History for Game 180782960 *****
    $10/$20 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 02 23 09:50:08 2006
    Tournament #8643117 $5 + $0.5 - Table #1 (Real Money)
    Seat 8 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 10: dibbs84 ( $810 )
    Seat 1: 6fumbles ( $770 )
    Seat 2: rplace8 ( $630 )
    Seat 3: JeanettP ( $1450 )
    Seat 5: HalvSame ( $910 )
    Seat 6: MadRus33 ( $690 )
    Seat 7: tashwell ( $930 )
    Seat 8: Jier ( $810 )
    Seat 9: kultbult ( $1000 )
    kultbult posts small blind [$10].
    dibbs84 posts big blind [$20].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to HalvSame [ Qd Qs ]
    6fumbles folds.
    rplace8 folds.
    JeanettP calls [$20].
    HalvSame raises [$80].
    MadRus33 folds.
    tashwell folds.
    Jier calls [$80].
    kultbult folds.
    dibbs84 calls [$60].
    JeanettP calls [$60].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 5c, Kd ]
    dibbs84 checks.
    JeanettP checks.
    HalvSame ???

    Should I raise more pf with a limper? Should I bet on the flop to find out if someone has the king?

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    Hand no. 3:
    ***** Pacific Hand History for Game 180679648 *****
    $15/$30 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 02 22 19:36:56 2006
    Tournament #8627981 $5 + $0.5 - Table #1 (Real Money)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Total number of players : 5
    Seat 10: NELSON27 ( $1170 )
    Seat 3: MsKenny ( $2630 )
    Seat 4: HalvSame ( $2690 )
    Seat 5: BABYD777 ( $760 )
    Seat 7: Jon544 ( $750 )
    BABYD777 posts small blind [$15].
    Jon544 posts big blind [$30].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to HalvSame [ 6d 6h ]
    NELSON27 folds.
    MsKenny calls [$30].
    HalvSame calls [$30].
    BABYD777 folds.
    Jon544 checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, As, 10h ]
    Jon544 checks.
    MsKenny checks.
    HalvSame ???

    Bet to steal?

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    Hand no. 4:
    ***** Pacific Hand History for Game 180623407 *****
    $15/$30 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 02 22 06:01:35 2006
    Tournament #8619277 $5 + $0.5 - Table #1 (Real Money)
    Seat 9 is the button
    Total number of players : 8
    Seat 10: emt11 ( $1390 )
    Seat 1: biff3141 ( $1720 )
    Seat 2: Ronman71 ( $575 )
    Seat 3: HalvSame ( $940 )
    Seat 4: trusk32 ( $695 )
    Seat 6: deerdeer ( $1095 )
    Seat 7: plydoug2 ( $1025 )
    Seat 9: WilsonH ( $560 )
    emt11 posts small blind [$15].
    biff3141 posts big blind [$30].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to HalvSame [ Qs Qd ]
    Ronman71 folds.
    HalvSame raises [$90].
    trusk32 folds.
    deerdeer folds.
    plydoug2 calls [$90].
    WilsonH calls [$90].
    emt11 folds.
    biff3141 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 6h, Ah ]
    HalvSame ???

    Bet out to see if they have the ace?
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    I am a bit worried to realise that in every case I suggest making the agressive move, except possibly the third diamond hand where I might be tempted to bet but would probably check/fold as it's not a keytime in the game.
  3. #3
    Hand 1

    I am not convinced villian was on a flush draw as this early I have seen plenty of idiots who will chase any A. He could also have a K with a lower kicker or be on an inside str8 draw. Bet the turn and if villian comes over the top then you can put them on a flush.

    Hand 2

    Absolutely lead out on the flop to see where you stand. You put in a raise pre-flop and although people love to call raises with an A in their hand, they are less inclined to do that with a K.

    Hand 3

    Check - you are still early in the tourney and should still be playing low pp's for set value.

    Hand 4

    I get in trouble with these hands more than any other. With the amount of people at this level who love to play against a raise with an A I am more inclinded to say a few choice words, check the flop and lay it down to any significant bet. If someone mn bets I may check-raise to put them to the test, but in most cases I would believe that one of the two pre-flop callers has an A.
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  4. #4
    1. I fire out about 150 on the turn and slow right down if called and toss it if raised. Check calling can mean SB is on a draw but could also be a slowplayed two pair or (less likely) a set.

    2. I would have raised to 100 with a limper but I play at Stars with 1500 starting stacks. I throw out about a 2/3 pot bet (200 or so), fold if raised and check/fold if called and I don't hit the turn.

    3. This one I'm checking since your pair is below every card on the board (although that's not hard with 66). Remember set or forget - it's not worth taking the risk with blinds this low that somebody has a T or 7, calls you and leaves you drawing to 2 outs.

    4. Grrr, I hate it when you're out of position with a big pair, >1 player has called your PF raise and an ace comes on the flop. There are just too many hands that contain an ace that would have called your PF raise, particularly at the $5.50 level. I think I grit my teeth and check this one, particularly since there are two players to act after you.

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