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$20+2 mtt -- mid to late game question (HH)

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  1. #1

    Default $20+2 mtt -- mid to late game question (HH)

    Joker is a solid player, haven't really seen a hand from him, but he definitely knows when to bet and when not to... Was my line right, and what should I do. Results are in white.

    PokerStars Game #4134222893: Tournament #20356589, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/02/28 - 22:36:06 (ET)
    Table '20356589 11' Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: TbHackworth (6512 in chips)
    Seat 2: dochandorach (15168 in chips)
    Seat 3: SMaturin (9805 in chips)
    Seat 4: Addakis (7361 in chips)
    Seat 5: barncj (4640 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 6: GG3199 (9783 in chips)
    Seat 7: JOKER777 (14210 in chips)
    Seat 8: AlanKouri (8734 in chips)
    Seat 9: Warster (11454 in chips)
    TbHackworth: posts the ante 25
    dochandorach: posts the ante 25
    SMaturin: posts the ante 25
    Addakis: posts the ante 25
    barncj: posts the ante 25
    GG3199: posts the ante 25
    JOKER777: posts the ante 25
    AlanKouri: posts the ante 25
    Warster: posts the ante 25
    TbHackworth: posts small blind 200
    dochandorach: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to TbHackworth [Td 8h]
    SMaturin: folds
    Addakis: folds
    barncj: folds
    GG3199: folds
    JOKER777: calls 400
    AlanKouri: folds
    Warster: folds
    TbHackworth: calls 200
    dochandorach: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Jd Jc 8s]
    TbHackworth: bets 900
    dochandorach: folds
    JOKER777: calls 900
    *** TURN *** [Jd Jc 8s] [8d]
    TbHackworth: bets 900
    JOKER777: raises 1500 to 2400
    TbHackworth: ???
    TbHackworth: raises 2787 to 5187 and is all-in
    barncj is connected
    barncj has returned
    JOKER777: folds
    JOKER777 said, "NH"
    TbHackworth collected 8025 from pot.
  2. #2
    *** FLOP *** [Jd Jc 8s]
    TbHackworth: bets 900
    dochandorach: folds
    JOKER777: calls 900
    TbHackworth: goes into check fold mode

    That was my initial thought on the flop. He could be limping QJ types here, as well as any pair. I don't want to try and guess later whether his PP is TT or 77.

    Now, when the 8 comes, obv the question is J/no J. It is very tough for me to believe someone who smooth called the flop with a J is now going to raise after making the full, so we toss that out when he raises. If he had smooth called you here I would slow it WAAAY down, because you're either beat or splitting, or he has QQ+ and will look to show it down cheap.

    So we're just left with re-raise or call the turn, since we are now assuming we have the best hand. also, we are OOP for the river. If opp has nothing we would rather smooth call, but that forces a river check to hope he bets, and we lose value from PP hands. If opp has an 8, we want to raise hoping maybe he'll fold. if opp has PP, we want to raise here IMO because he won't bet the river and may call. Also, you don't give him a free draw he has something like 99.

    Given the way the hand was played, it seems unlikely he has nothing. If he has PP or an 8, we want to raise, so I think you played perfectly.
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    I probably raise or fold preflop there in such bad position and against a bigger stack.
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