Overpair, dangerous board, what's your play?

[wilhung53]

Hand #12309536-44 at Mon840pmUBNet-131 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 27/Feb/06 21:33:10

nagdice is at seat 0 with 1665.
Ace Wright is at seat 1 with 2810.
luvspoker2 is at seat 2 with 1510.
YOUR1NITEMARE is at seat 3 with 4285.
tramalati is at seat 4 with 2320.
signback is at seat 5 with 2310.
bapa1 is at seat 6 with 7510.
wilhung53 is at seat 7 with 2135.
GOMEZ805 is at seat 8 with 2660.
The button is at seat 8.

nagdice posts the small blind of 30.
Ace Wright posts the big blind of 60.

nagdice: -- --
Ace Wright: -- --
luvspoker2: -- --
YOUR1NITEMARE: -- --
tramalati: -- --
signback: -- --
bapa1: -- --
wilhung53: 9d 9s
GOMEZ805: -- --

Pre-flop:

luvspoker2 calls. YOUR1NITEMARE calls. tramalati
folds. signback folds. bapa1 calls. wilhung53
calls. GOMEZ805 calls. nagdice calls. Ace Wright
checks.

Flop (board: 5d 3s 8s):

nagdice checks. Ace Wright checks. luvspoker2
checks. YOUR1NITEMARE bets 60. bapa1 folds.
wilhung53 raises to 350. GOMEZ805 folds. nagdice
folds. Ace Wright folds. luvspoker2 folds.
YOUR1NITEMARE re-raises to 2060.

What's your play here? Note that there are no raises preflop, so the only probable hands would be Nut Flush draw or trips if he isn't bluffing. He could also have a pair of 8's (i.e. A8, K8, etc.), since he likes to limp with rags out of position. I think if he had TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA, he'll need to bet more than 60 to protect his hand, and would raise from early position preflop.

Please give me some suggestions and comments about this.

[shysti]

Hmm tricky play, imo, I would call here. I believe he's on the flush draw, more so than having trips.

Then again, perhaps he's protecting his trips by pushin all in against the flush draws, but I think there are better ways to about this. I would call because I think your hand is best here.

[fjuanl]

This is close...but it would be easier if you knew some info on his betting patterns (how does he play TPTK etc)It would be a dumb move to be betting that little with TT+ with 7 people in the hand, so I would rule that out. Maybe its a leak of mine to assume your beat here, but I really think its a set. Even if hes semi-bluffing with 2 overs and 2 spades, your only 45%. On UB I fold

[shysti]

Would you believe i just had this happen to me on pokerroom!

I had a pair of 9s the board came 856 the 56 of a diamonds, and I bet half the pot on the flop guy calls, j comes on the turn I bet half the pot again and am left with 255 after he calls, he puts me all in and I call.

He turns over jack 9 off suit. He called my raise of 6x the bb pre flop then called my half pot raise on the flop why!!!???

[drmcboy]

I would give it up. Even if he only has Axs with one over to the 99, you aren't a big fave, especially if he has a pair to go along (which I guess would be A5s), which is just as possible as A8/K8. If this is a pure bluff, the line is very weird, good for him. Whenever you're a massive dog if behind and a meh favorite when ahead I'm leaning to a fold.

Plus, after limping the 99, IMO you are saying "I will not go broke here with overpair". If you want to put all your chips in on this flop, raise pre flop.

[chardrian]

I raise preflop.

[wilhung53]

My concern with a preflop raise is that I am opening the pot for the previous first 2 players, especially YOUR1NITEMARE to re-raise all-in. I am still in good shape in terms of chips, and don't want to risk all my chips with 99.

[gabe]

in general, dont play for overpairs when you didn't raise preflop

[aleksandr]

I think this is a fold. Could be a slowplayed overpair, like TT or JJ in addition to a set, or 2pair, pair+flush draw, etc. You don't have outs against the hands that beat you, the hands that you beat have plenty usually. I think let this one go and make a note.