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  1. #1

    Default Reassurance Part II

    Hows this?
    Reads--- This guy was going all in with trash all game. Mane to the eeee to the ack . Straight I D 10 T .

    I didnt raise because I wanted the most people in this hand .. I would use him acting before me and betting crazy to cause others to fold .. Good idea bad idea? He did what was planned, only everyone else folded. Thoughts on the plan? Even if I smooth called the 230 on the flop.. The other dude was really tight and he was going out. I call this - Operation Use a Donkey.

    Game #1325210161 (Level III, Game #4) - 15/30 No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2006/03/03-17:54:49.5 (CST)
    Table "Opah (5 max)" ($5 tournament) -- Seat 5 is the button
    Seat 1: bgmiles (1,732.00 in chips)
    Seat 3: SpecOpsSpook (991.00 in chips)
    Seat 4: fasin8ning (865.00 in chips)
    Seat 5: fullofit27 (1,412.00 in chips)
    bgmiles : Post Small Blind (15)
    SpecOpsSpook: Post Big Blind (30)
    Dealing...
    Dealt to fasin8ning [ 9c ]
    Dealt to fasin8ning [ 9h ]
    fasin8ning: Call (30)
    fullofit27: Fold
    bgmiles : Call (15)
    SpecOpsSpook: Check
    *** FLOP *** : [ 9d Kd 7h ]
    bgmiles : Check
    SpecOpsSpook: Bet (230)
    fasin8ning: Raise (460)
    bgmiles : Fold
    SpecOpsSpook: Raise (731)
    fasin8ning: Call All-in (375)
    *** TURN *** : [ 9d Kd 7h ] [ 8h ]
    *** RIVER *** : [ 9d Kd 7h 8h ] [ Tc ]
    Ummm .. A 9 maybe.. ?
  2. #2
    Well played IMO. If he had a 6 or a J and hit his straight, well, you still got your money in with the best hand.

    I would have played it the same as you by not raising preflop, because early in the SnG I play small-medium pocket pairs (say up to TT) for set value, particularly OOP. I'm not sure I agree with your logic that you wanted the most people in the hand preflop. What happens if you get all 3 opps in the hand preflop, you don't hit your set and overcards come on the flop?
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    I'd put him on a weak king if your read of him is correct, maybe even K7 for 2 pair. Only problem you have is if he has KJ, but I would imagine a maniac would raise that preflop...

    I'd play it the same post-flop - really no other way to play it....

    But I would have raised to 90-100 preflop since you really don't want anyone but him in the hand, and he probably would have called since he has you covered - and maniacs love to defend their blind. But limp for a set is safer... nice flop - nh (hope he didn't have the J)
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    What happens if you get all 3 opps in the hand preflop, you don't hit your set and overcards come on the flop?
    I wait for him and the other guy to check it to the turn. Any bets I fold. The way the board would be at this point if you replaced the 9 with any other card I would be looking at straight draw opportunities. Other guy was really tight.. I am sure he would have had some kind of hand, and he had postion. If it were just me and donkey breath..... I push the flop, if he checks.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by konahead
    (hope he didn't have the J)
    He flipped over A 9 ..
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    I feel like I would probably play this the same trying to look weak with the min-raise and get more money out of him, but again I dont know if thats the right way to play. Looking at your stack size it doesnt make a ton of sense leaving 375 chips behind. Regardless of the stack size though, your min-raise gives him 3.4:1 odds, so almost enough to be getting correct odds for a flush draw. I dont see why you didnt just push over his raise, again, you left behind 375 chips and allowed a potential flush draw to stay in. You got it all in on the flop, I just dont think you went about it the best way. I could be wrong though, and if I am, please correct me.
  7. #7
    fasin8ting, how does this post have any relationship to your other post, other than you hit a set? This post is ***yawn***

    At least your other post had something interesting to discuss.
  8. #8

    Default Re: Reassurance Part II

    Quote Originally Posted by fasin8ing
    Game #1325210161 (Level III, Game #4) - 15/30 No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2006/03/03-17:54:49.5 (CST)
    Table "Opah (5 max)" ($5 tournament) -- Seat 5 is the button
    Seat 1: bgmiles (1,732.00 in chips)
    Seat 3: SpecOpsSpook (991.00 in chips)
    Seat 4: fasin8ning (865.00 in chips)
    Seat 5: fullofit27 (1,412.00 in chips)
    bgmiles : Post Small Blind (15)
    SpecOpsSpook: Post Big Blind (30)
    Dealing...
    Dealt to fasin8ning [ 9c ]
    Dealt to fasin8ning [ 9h ]
    fasin8ning: Call (30)
    fullofit27: Fold
    bgmiles : Call (15)
    SpecOpsSpook: Check
    *** FLOP *** : [ 9d Kd 7h ]
    bgmiles : Check
    SpecOpsSpook: Bet (230)
    fasin8ning: Raise (460)
    translation: I HAVE A SET
  9. #9
    you had a read that he would give you action and you played the hand accordingly. nh.

    You might raise more on the flop if you're gonna raise at all here. Min-raises kinda look like big hands in spots like these.
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba Chuck
    fasin8ting, how does this post have any relationship to your other post, other than you hit a set? This post is ***yawn***

    At least your other post had something interesting to discuss.
    Scuba,
    I wanted to know if my logic behind playing this for set value was good using the guy in early position. I was almost in the hand with a tight player , and a loose player. If the tight player acted last and I was in the middle and the loose guy would raise him , I could just enjoy the ride if I hit my set. I really wanted to know if my plan was great. My example in this post was I am in the hand with a LAGG and a TAGG, stuck in the middle with a hand. How would you have played this??
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba Chuck
    fasin8ting, how does this post have any relationship to your other post, other than you hit a set? This post is ***yawn***

    At least your other post had something interesting to discuss.
    Scuba,
    I wanted to know if my logic behind playing this for set value was good using the guy in early position. I was almost in the hand with a tight player , and a loose player. If the tight player acted last and I was in the middle and the loose guy would raise him , I could just enjoy the ride if I hit my set. I really wanted to know if my plan was great. My example in this post was I am in the hand with a LAGG and a TAGG, stuck in the middle with a hand. How would you have played this "hypothetically" if they both gave you action post flop?

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