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When to call short-stack all-ins?

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  1. #1

    Default When to call short-stack all-ins?

    A couple of hands I got burned with are posted below. Second-guessing myself...

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
    MP2 (t3480)
    CO (t1081)
    Button (t2838)
    SB (t4599)
    Hero (t5242)
    UTG (t2150)
    MP1 (t610)
    Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, A.
    1 fold, MP1 bets t610 (all-in), 4 folds, Hero calls t410.
    Flop: (t1320) Q, T, 7 (2 players)
    Turn: (t1320) 9 (2 players)
    River: (t1320) 4 (2 players)
    Final Pot: t1320
    Results in white below:
    Hero has 3c Ah (flush, queen high).
    MP1 has As 4h (flush, ace high).
    Outcome: MP1 wins t1320.


    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
    Button (t1002)
    SB (t11750)
    Hero (t5100)
    UTG (t2148)
    Preflop: Hero is BB with 2, A.
    1 fold, Button bets t1002 (all-in), 1 fold, Hero calls t602.
    Flop: (t2204) K, J, 5 (2 players)
    Turn: (t2204) 3 (2 players)
    River: (t2204) Q (2 players)
    Final Pot: t2204
    Results in white below:
    Button has 2s 2c (one pair, twos).
    Hero has 2h Ac (high card, ace).
    Outcome: Button wins t2204.
  2. #2
    Hand 1 - You are getting over 2 to 1 on your money and it is less than 10% of your stack. I call this all day long.

    Hand 2 - You are getting almost 3 to 1, so again easy call.

    I will say that the ONLY hesistation in both cases is your kicker, but the odds you are getting outweigh that.
    Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
  3. #3
    Ok. How bad a hand would you call with in these situations? Any pair? Any K? Suited connectors?

    And how much does stack size matter? If I had only 3000 chips to start both these hands are they still good calls?

    I know there aren't hard and fast rules, but I want to get a better idea of what I should be thinking about when I make these decisions...
  4. #4
    In Hand 1 I'd fold total crap like 52, but call with everything else. In Hand 2 I'd call with any two cards. You're not offered huge pot odds very often, so you really have to take advantage of these situations when they're offered to you. Especially since losing these hands doesn't really hurt your stack.
  5. #5
    In these sorts of situations I'd call with any two cards aslong as the call is 10% of my stack or less.

    In other situations, some thought might be required. Is the short stack knowledgable enough to know that he/she needs to be pushing more or less any two cards with an M of 5 or less, or are they camping on a great hand etc.

    Later on in tournies, especially sitting in the big blind you'll often find you are getting very good odds to call with a very wide range.

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